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EddieM
oh no... not unless you're using a Lloyds bank one, cash point is a Lloyds trademark.
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Second vaccine approved.
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oh no... not unless you're using a Lloyds bank one, cash point is a Lloyds trademark.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-russia-idUSKBN28L0YQ
Adenoviruses have one common flaw - some people may have built up antibodies to the underlying virus vector. So combining it with another adenovirus based vaccine could be beneficial. You think they would even contemplate using the Russian vaccine in combined trials if it they didnt have the data?
AstraZeneca is to start clinical trials to test a combination of its experimental COVID-19 vaccine with Russia’s Sputnik V shot to see if this can boost the efficacy of the British drugmaker’s vaccine, Russia’s sovereign wealth fund said on Friday.
Ditto for Ernie Wise making the first mobile phone call. What was he, a test engineer? Didn’t they test it out first?
It's not simple, that much is certain.
As for waiting for a more effective treatment, it would be a long time. The AZ one is ready to deliver something like 4 times the amount Pfizer have been able to supply and will be enough to do all the over 60s and vulnerable people by March. All the vaccines have long waiting lists.
As for effectiveness, I'm not sure how much to read into it. I saw something that said some of the AZ participants were getting regular screening tests which I don't think the Pfizer ones were and that because of it AZ were picking up asymptomatic cases as well as symptomatic ones. In that case it might be just as effective. Or it might not.
My view is any of the current vaccines, Pfizer, Moderna or AZ are massively better than nothing. Even if we top up with Pfizer later the AZ one will save thousands of lives whilst we wait.
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EddieM
Well I was definitely the first person to make a Sainsbury's EPOS generated online authorised payment, so there!
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I remember going to local pub that had reopened after a major refurb, the landlord announced that mine was the first pint to be served, as I reached over for it I knocked it over and drenched the bar
If a top up with a different vaccine is possible.
The thought hadn't escaped me that it would be expedient for a government to roll out the cheap less effective vaccine it had invested heavily in, purely for expediency above other factors. But then does that raise the potential for the better off to "go private" and pay for a 'better' vaccine - even if it means waiting and declining the NHS offer vaccine?
From what I've heard it is possible to have multiple different ones. There's at least a few trials going on for that now (one dose of Vaccine A, one dose of Vaccine B). In theory it might work even better than just one Vaccine. Belt and braces.
At the moment there isn't any option to get any of the Vaccines outside of normal channels. But that won't last. Corruption and/or the US healthcare system will see to that.
I definitely wouldn't reject the AZ one, even if I were thinking of getting the Pfizer or Moderna one later.
I’ll have the new one as a starter and first one as my main course.
Yep, big pharma knows what it's doing
And all countries will follow Spain in 'registering' those who decline the jab...
Just as those who are offered a flu jab in the UK now have to sign to say they have done so...
Neither jabs are 'mandatory' yet, but 'normal' life will eventually become become impossible without a 'health passport'. When of course they have worked out what they want the 'new normal' life to look like!
And going by the number of guinea pigs on here itching to get jabbed with the unknown, they'll be able to sell anything to the increasingly dumbed down portion of the population...
The propaganda 'ministry' is no doubt as we speak thinking up derisory terms for those who still retain the ability of analytical and independent thought, and who refuse to join the other sheeple in the 'fear is control' exercise!
No one has to do any such thing. As for acknowledging that they have declined, that mirrors exactly what happens in hospital, if you decline a recommended treatment. Has anyone who declined a flu jab been discriminated against?
Where will that leave you then? You won’t even be able to go on holiday to another EEA country let alone move there. We'll be bloody stuck with you!
Only for Lloyds customers.
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durhamplumber
You always going onabout they do know there aŕse from their tìt!Make your mind up..
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