"Take two toothbrushes into the bathroom?"

[the_jinj]

...but surely this would be considered unsafe and failed by the inspector?

Yes, bathrooms in most other countries are deathtraps beacuse they have sockets...

Unless maybe a RCD

I beleive that is required, but even in the days before RCDs, forgein bathrooms weren't deadly...

Not exactly what I was getting at - how can marking it as a departure get around the insprectors?

 

[Adam_151]

I was getting at that if their stance was that it was dangerous, if you pushed them you could have them lost for words and they'd have to retire to the office to come up with another reason why us british can't have bathroom sockets

 

[the_jinj]

I was getting at that if their stance was that it was dangerous, if you pushed them you could have them lost for words and they'd have to retire to the office to come up with another reason why us british can't have bathroom sockets

Then they would say it's dangerous - is it then change it or court to prove otherwise - them using BS7671 to make their case

 

[securespark]

The regulations forbid any Low Voltage (ie 230V) socket outlets in a bathroom.

However, in zone 3 a fused spur protected by an RCD is permissible.

 

[RF Lighting]

The regulations forbid any Low Voltage (ie 230V) socket outlets in a bathroom.

However, in zone 3 a fused spur protected by an RCD is permissible.

It is according to BS7671, but what if you work to another set of standards?

I wonder when totalyspies will turn up suggesting an armadillo kit

 

[Spark123]

The regulations forbid any Low Voltage (ie 230V) socket outlets in a bathroom.

However, in zone 3 a fused spur protected by an RCD is permissible.

It is according to BS7671, but what if you work to another set of standards?

If you are working to another set of EU standards then as long as installing a socket in a bathroom is permissable in those regulations and are complied with adequately to fulfill those regs then you may install a socket (probably not a BS1363 one though) in a bathroom. Good luck persuading LABC though.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

You don't have to persuade them - they have to prove that it is illegal.

Just come back from a holiday in France.

All the bathrooms had Schuko sockets in them. Didn't have to step over any dead bodies, (presumably they were removed by the chambermaids) and by some miracle we managed to avoid sticking our fingers in the sockets or seizing the opportunity to take the telly into the shower.

 

[securespark]

we managed to avoid........the opportunity to take the telly into the shower.

That's the difference between thee & me, Ban....if I had a socket in the bathroom, the very first thing I would do is watch Davina in the shower (jokes on many levels coming up....!!)

 

[plugwash]

You don't have to persuade them - they have to prove that it is illegal.

are you sure?

i thought the way building notification worked was you either had to get thier aproval or challange them in court.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Well - it's an interesting one, but I would think that ultimately it must come down to the fact that the Building Regulations are statutory, and contravention of them is a criminal offence. People can, and do, get large fines and prison sentences for contravening them.

Therefore there is a presumption of innocence, i.e. a presumption of compliance, and any guilt, i.e. non-compliance, has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt in court.

In reality, I'm sure that there would be some "persuading" required, but given that the building regs only require "reasonable safety", and do not require compliance with any particular set of wiring regulations, how far could they persist in refusing a certificate if pressed on the basic question "Do you believe that I have contravened the Building Regulations?"

 

[empip]

I thought electric tooth brushes fitted to a common electrical part, ie the brushes are yours. How would a household of 6 cope, 6 chargers.
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Common sense answer.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

That's the difference between thee & me, Ban....if I had a socket in the bathroom, the very first thing I would do is watch Davina in the shower (jokes on many levels coming up....!!)

Presumably when you're not trawling a.b.p.e.pregnant....

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I thought electric tooth brushes fitted to a common electrical part, ie the brushes are yours. How would a household of 6 cope, 6 chargers.
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Common sense answer.

Not common sense to the lazy and desperately unhygienic TheOriginalSlimJim.......

 

[plugwash]

Well - it's an interesting one, but I would think that ultimately it must come down to the fact that the Building Regulations are statutory, and contravention of them is a criminal offence. People can, and do, get large fines and prison sentences for contravening them.

Therefore there is a presumption of innocence, i.e. a presumption of compliance, and any guilt, i.e. non-compliance, has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt in court.

yes but if you go ahead without thier permission haven't you broken the notification requirements of the building regulations?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Notification via a Building Notice as opposed to Full Plans Submission does not involve them giving you approval to start.