The French are revolting.

[Brigadier]

We paid full price for ours. £32,500 which was a fair bit more than houses were going for in1984 but it came with a workshop and yard which we still own. We sold just the house and garden in 1990 and kept the workshop and yard. I’ve had both a good living and a good rental income on them since then. They are worth quite a bit more than the original purchase price too.

Good for you.

Some on here however, had a right titty-babby about this, when it was pointed out that "their" graft was in no small part helped by a leg-up, that no-one today gets

"Tougher in my day, kids nowadays don't know what work is"-type bullshoite

 

[gant]

And nowhere did I say that UK had no farming industry.



T'was ever thus, but you're claiming it is a recent thing; some sort of carve-up in the EU......


Again, you're claiming that was due to some shady agreement, made in Europe.




Just pointing out the weaknesses in your rantings.

Well all I can say you'll have to do better to more convincing.

 

[Brigadier]

Well all I can say you'll have to do better to more convincing.

The UK in general, and London in particular, has been perhaps the world's foremost financial centre for over 300 yrs.
Much of international financial law was based on English contractual law.
The above is a matter of verifiable historical record.

But you choose to ignore that, instead placing your hunches on some shady dealings, in a smoke-filled room in Europe, in the seventies



No amount of words will help, as you have already decided what you want the result to be, then interpret any words to achieve that.

A type of "blind faith" would be a polite way of putting it.

 

[blup]

Its credit that’s the problem, people are lent too much, it fuels inflation and creates a mind set that the permanent pursuit of money is the be all and end all. Maggie blatantly bribed the electorate with rtb.

 

[gant]

The UK in general, and London in particular, has been perhaps the world's foremost financial centre for over 300 yrs.
Much of international financial law was based on English contractual law.
The above is a matter of verifiable historical record.

But you choose to ignore that, instead placing your hunches on some shady dealings, in a smoke-filled room in Europe, in the seventies



No amount of words will help, as you have already decided what you want the result to be, then interpret any words to achieve that.

A type of "blind faith" would be a polite way of putting it.

Oh so with that kind of history it would make perfect sense to get rid of the square mile (regardless of its geographical location to the rest of the world) move it to France and France could gear up a manufacturing side and Germany could flatten their manufacturing base and grow crops.
You do know why French farmers are up in arms don't you, it wouldnt be to do with all them subsidies they get that other eu countries with similar economies can't compete with being taken away from them.

 

[Notch7]

So it just ended up of its own making that Britain went the service industry route and the French and Germans went the way of farming and industry.
Fine.

No, it was domestic politics.

in the U.K. high status was given to service professions

in Germany, engineers were considered to be of high social status. After reunification Germany put a lot of effort into education in engineering and sciences.

meanwhile the UK encourage the rise of Yuppies where 21 year olds could make a packer out of working in stockbroking.


Domestic politics is what has shaped the U.K. and the structural failures we see today are a direct result of that

 

[Notch7]

Oh so with that kind of history it would make perfect sense to get rid of the square mile (regardless of its geographical location to the rest of the world) move it to France and France could gear up a manufacturing side and Germany could flatten their manufacturing base and grow crops.
You do know why French farmers are up in arms don't you, it wouldnt be to do with all them subsidies they get that other eu countries with similar economies can't compete with being taken away from them.

Gant, instead of rambling on with your uninformed opinions, why don’t you go and learn some facts

 

[gant]

No, it was domestic politics.

in the U.K. high status was given to service professions

in Germany, engineers were considered to be of high social status. After reunification Germany put a lot of effort into education in engineering and sciences.

meanwhile the UK encourage the rise of Yuppies where 21 year olds could make a packer out of working in stockbroking.


Domestic politics is what has shaped the U.K. and the structural failures we see today are a direct result of that

Bingo you've got it, so all the other stuff we did became surplus to requirements so to speak.

 

[Notch7]

Its credit that’s the problem, people are lent too much, it fuels inflation and creates a mind set that the permanent pursuit of money is the be all and end all. Maggie blatantly bribed the electorate with rtb.

Tory is now the home of the working class, not in some small part by Thatchers cheap houses.

Not that I have a big problem with RTB, but I do have a big problem with councils not allowed to build more housing, so now we pay out a fortune in housing benefit that ends up in the hands of privately owned housing associations

 

[gant]

Gant, instead of rambling on with your uninformed opinions, why don’t you go and learn some facts

Upset your little world where you take everything at face value?

 

[denso13]

You do know why French farmers are up in arms don't you, it wouldnt be to do with all them subsidies they get that other eu countries

We've left the EU but you are still going on about the French etc.

 

[Notch7]

Bingo you've got it, so all the other stuff we did became surplus to requirements so to speak.

Not surplus to requirements.

UK has expensive land and it’s a small country, it makes farming expensive.

We also have powerful monopolistic supermarkets which force suppliers down to prices that makes farming not viable….have a look at the egg industry.

 

[Notch7]

Upset your little world where you take everything at face value?

Gant, I am more informed than you because I research the facts.

 

[gant]

We've left the EU but you are still going on about the French etc.

Given the thread is about the French revolting it would be rude not to mention them.

 

[gant]

Not surplus to requirements.

UK has expensive land and it’s a small country, it makes farming expensive.

We also have powerful monopolistic supermarkets which force suppliers down to prices that makes farming not viable….have a look at the egg industry.

Bingo again, you having a brainstorm today?
Nothing a few subsidies off the government wouldn't go a miss to keep prices down.