The Genocide hating thread

[Knave of Hearts]

What on earth are these changes you keep blathering about?

Were you not aware of them?
Yet you repeatedly argue that Palestinians refused to sign the Agreement?
Some of us followed the process, and previous processes before it. Did you not?
I haven't the time now to look for links to prove my argument. Later...

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Oh shut up Himmy.

Your argument demolished, so here comes the abuse.

 

[Mottie]

Your argument demolished, so here comes the abuse.

Abuse - that’s what normally gets you a ban, isn’t it? How long are you hoping to stay this time?

 

[fillyboy]

Were you not aware of them?
Yet you repeatedly argue that Palestinians refused to sign the Agreement?
Some of us followed the process, and previous processes before it. Did you not?
I haven't the time now to look for links to prove my argument. Later...

I've only heard of these changes from yourself and your link to 'The Middle East Monitor', shame you haven't got time to back up your nonsense.

Looks like Hamas are going to reject the deal and it's nothing to do with your imaginary changes.

 

[Vinty]

They may have welcomed Trump's plan, but they haven't endorsed it.
There's a difference. If you can't (or won't acknowledge that) that's your problem.

But Arab states and Turkey have blasted Netanyahu's changes to that plan.


It's always been the same, an agreement is drawn up, which Palestine leadership consider and possibly accept, then Israel changes it, making it unacceptable to Palestinians.
Exactly the same thing happened at Camp David in 2000.

2000 Camp David Summit - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Any agreement drawn up by Trump or Netanyahu is worthless, simply because
these two have a record of breaking any agreement they enter into.

 

[fillyboy]

Any agreement drawn up by Trump or Netanyahu is worthless, simply because
these two have a record of breaking any agreement they enter into.

Why do you think Hamas look like walking away from the deal, do you think's because of your claims?, or because they refuse to demilliatarise, refuse to go into exile and refuse to release the hostages.

 

[JohnD]

...standing up for a terrorist organisation instead of standing by Israel. ...

Not very many people are standing up for the terrorist organisations that are the state of Israel, the Israeli army, and the terrorist militias invading and operating in West Bank.

Racism, apartheid and genocide are not as popular as you thought.

 

[transam]

3 hamas members / terrorists arrested by German plod

Plotting terrorist attacks in Germany ?

 

[JohnD]

Zionist terrorists seldom get arrested, because they have the backing of the Israeli army and the Israeli government.

Very much like Kristallnacht went unpunished.

That sort of thing happens when a fascist regime is in power.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

What on earth are these changes you keep blathering about?

During the Camp David summit, an agreement was reached, one that recognise Jerusalem as the 1948 UN Resolution.
But at the last minute Barak insisted on total control of Jerusalem, including the Sacred Mount, which of course is sacred to Muslims throughout the Middle East.
So Arafat, on refusing that change to the previously agreed arrangement, had the whole weight of the Muslim world to consider, not just the Palestinian - Israeli conflict. So obviously it was a step too far for Arafat.

In addition, all press reports were from an Israeli perspective, which the Americans, and the rest of the western world, accepted.
The PLO were a proscribed organisation so had little access to media outlets.

Also, Arafat had already agreed to land swaps that seriously restricted Palestinians the right to freedom of association.

The Myth of the Generous Offer​

Distorting the Camp David negotiations

The Myth of the Generous Offer

The seemingly endless volleys of attack and retaliation in the Middle East leave many people wondering why the two sides can't reach an agreement. The answer is simple, according to numerous commentators: At the Camp David meeting in July 2000, Israel "offered extraordinary concessions" (Michael...

fair.org

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Abuse - that’s what normally gets you a ban, isn’t it? How long are you hoping to stay this time?

How long are you prepared to suffer me demolishing your arguments with two sentences?

Interestingly, your comment was appreciated by Pete, Highway Man and fillystine. all of whom engaged in serious abusive and mendacious attacks against me and my reputation very recently.
Perhaps they were thinking of their own abusive behaviour.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I've only heard of these changes from yourself and your link to 'The Middle East Monitor', shame you haven't got time to back up your nonsense.

Corrected to a degree.
More later.

Looks like Hamas are going to reject the deal and it's nothing to do with your imaginary changes.

Yo need to reconsider your source of information.
The Jerusalem Times is extremely biased.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Why do you think Hamas look like walking away from the deal, do you think's because of your claims?, or because they refuse to demilliatarise, refuse to go into exile and refuse to release the hostages.

Because there's no guarantee of a Palestine state. it's always at the behest of Israel, as it always has been.
And there's no sign of any cessation of Israeli attacks on PAlestinians.
Also there's no agreement to demilitarise (of Israelis) the Gaza strip.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

3 hamas members / terrorists arrested by German plod

Plotting terrorist attacks in Germany ?

Here's a bit of whataboutery for you. something which many on here are fond of, especially Mottie.
Nearly 70,000 killed in the Gaza strip, most of them civilians, most of them women and children, by American backed Israelis, and how many of those incidents did you bring to the attention of the forum?

After nearly 70.000 Palestinians killed by American backed Israelis, most of them civilians, most of them women and children. what does the world expect, but more violence?

 

[Highway Man]

Because there's no guarantee of a Palestine state. it's always at the behest of Israel, as it always has been.
And there's no sign of any cessation of Israeli attacks on PAlestinians.
Also there's no agreement to demilitarise (of Israelis) the Gaza strip.

So you believe that they are justified to holding hostages.