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It's your call. I'm merely asking you, in a civilised and reasonable way, to quantify the assertions that you put forwards as facts. Commonly, when people are gently challenged in this way, it emerges that many claims have very little substance behind them.joe-90 said:
As I've already said:
1. If immigration annoys you, then I think it's A Good Thing.
2. If a Cambridge professor claims that there is no negative effect from immigration, then I think it's OK to have more of it.
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Don't be a pratt joe. You're standing there with your fists on your hips and your jaw jutting out when your trousers are around your ankles.
In practise, and all mirth aside, my opinion isn't poles apart from yours, but you have a way of taking a reasonable view and turning it into something entirely untenable.
Any one of the members on the topic would be prepared to have a reasoned debate with you on this subject, but you seem always to insist on presenting an over-simplified and black and white view of a situation that is actually quite complex and a very mirky grey.
Do you not realise that people respond to your posts in the same way that a cat's owner flicks a stuffed felt mouse towards it in the hope that it will jump about and play?
When are you going to see that, to have any chance of succeeding in a debate, as opposed to playing immigration policy tennis, which is all you're doing, you have to acknowledge other people's point of view and then counter it? All you do is mock other posts and twist people's words into something that they clearly never meant.
In practise, and all mirth aside, my opinion isn't poles apart from yours, but you have a way of taking a reasonable view and turning it into something entirely untenable.
Any one of the members on the topic would be prepared to have a reasoned debate with you on this subject, but you seem always to insist on presenting an over-simplified and black and white view of a situation that is actually quite complex and a very mirky grey.
Do you not realise that people respond to your posts in the same way that a cat's owner flicks a stuffed felt mouse towards it in the hope that it will jump about and play?
When are you going to see that, to have any chance of succeeding in a debate, as opposed to playing immigration policy tennis, which is all you're doing, you have to acknowledge other people's point of view and then counter it? All you do is mock other posts and twist people's words into something that they clearly never meant.
dont worry megawatt, he hasnt made any reply to the point ive raised yet. when hes actually confronted with facts and figures that cut through his sweeping statements thats when he starts his teenage sulking rants....he doesnt...he does! 
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I'm waiting for someone to put the pro immigration debate. The general public are certainly not in favour of wholesale immigration so why do we have it? Why don't the government (that I didn't elect) listen to the wishes of the people? Why has it taken all these years for it to be sufficiently 'PC' for the topic of immigration to be separated from the issue of 'racism'? Or as Andrew Green so cutely puts it, "We can now at last speak about the elephant in the room". For some odd reason that I can never figure, all internet forums are 'far left' and ridiculously PC, but even on here opinions are changing. Come on folks - climb aboard.
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You can in teaching joe. I know of quite a few who work .2, .5, .6 and so on of a week!
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