To all those that welcome/encourage the small boat migrants.

[Notch7]

people who commit crimes to reach the UK, illegally and have links to organised crime, might carry on committing crimes while in the UK?

Surely not.

It’s not illegal to cross a border to apply for asylum……so they haven’t committed a crime, so they aren’t criminal…..you want to frame them as criminals as it’s an opportunity to ramp up hatred.

I guess you’ve not heard of the refugee convention.

Don’t bother posting the bolox Tory illegal migration law, we are still a signatory to the refugee convention.

 

[Brigadier]

Yawn. More than 40 years ago when I went to work in South Africa I had to meet certain criteria. First criteria for the employer was that they couldn’t get an indigenous person to fill the post. Then, when they had to get a worker from abroad I had to be checked out for criminal offences, I had to have a full heath check including chest X-rays, I had to have an offer of a job, I had to have a place to live (company provided) when I got there, a work permit and I had to have health insurance. I saw nothing wrong with that. It amazes me that we are allowing people into this country who we don’t even know their names, or their criminal history or their health conditions. It amazes me even more that when they get here they are housed and fed and left to roam wherever they want and we have no idea where they are or what they are doing. You'd be rightly angry and furious if one of your loved ones were attacked or worse by someone who lives in this country. You’d feel ten times angrier with those in charge if it was some piece of scum that had come into this country, was fed and housed with your money and left to roam the streets, unchecked, when they should be monitored at all times until their claim was decided.

And yet compared to most of Europe, despite all of the above, SA was and still:

- is poorer
- has a much greater degree of wealth inequality
- has greater levels of corruption
- has more crime overall, and significantly more violent crime
- has a much lower quality of life overall
- has a much lower life expectancy

 

[MNW67]

Don’t bother posting the bolox Tory illegal migration law, we are still a signatory to the refugee convention.

Is that like the law saying Rwanda is safe, even though our highest court ruled it wasn't.

 

[Notch7]

The number of asylum seekers in hotels is down 15%


This is the Labour government getting on with the job.


Don’t vote for Farage, he has no solutions….other than making you poorer

 

[motorbiking]

It’s not illegal to cross a border to apply for asylum……so they haven’t committed a crime, so they aren’t criminal…..you want to frame them as criminals as it’s an opportunity to ramp up hatred.

I guess you’ve not heard of the refugee convention.

Don’t bother posting the bolox Tory illegal migration law, we are still a signatory to the refugee convention.

It is true that you have a limited protection from immigration offences - If you claim asylum.

However, these people who have illegally entered France have not claimed asylum in France and have no such protection. That is without looking at the crimes they have committed or intend to commit to fund the trafficking passage.

 

[Notch7]

Is that like the law saying Rwanda is safe, even though our highest court ruled it wasn't.

The illegal migrant act made it illegal for anybody arriving by small boat to claim asylum in U.K.

In other words the Tory govt created a system where anybody arriving could never be processed, never be returned.

 

[Notch7]

It is true that you have a limited protection from immigration offences - If you claim asylum.

However, these people who have illegally entered France have not claimed asylum in France and have no such protection. That is without looking at the crimes they have committed or intend to commit to fund the trafficking passage.

Do you never stop lying.

There is no requirement to claim asylum in first safe country you reach, so you claim of entering France illegally is utter twaddle.

You really are full of sh1t

 

[motorbiking]

Do you never stop lying.

There is no requirement to claim asylum in first safe country you reach, so you claim of entering France illegally is utter twaddle.

You really are full of sh1t

take what I said and turn it into something different, why don't you.

Read what I said again. Here it is in simpler language:

- If you claim asylum, you have some limited protection from being prosecuted for immigration offences.
- If you do not claim asylum, you don't.

Enter France illegally, don't claim asylum = immigration offence.

 

[motorbiking]

The illegal migrant act made it illegal for anybody arriving by small boat to claim asylum in U.K.

correct.

In other words the Tory govt created a system where anybody arriving could never be processed, never be returned.

Incorrect.

Claiming asylum

If you want to stay in the UK as a refugee, you must apply for asylum. Asylum law is complicated, so we recommend that you get good legal advice and someone to put forward your case.

www.lawsociety.org.uk

 

[MNW67]

The illegal migrant act made it illegal for anybody arriving by small boat to claim asylum in U.K.

In other words the Tory govt created a system where anybody arriving could never be processed, never be returned.

But lots are being returned to safe countries like Albania. What is the legal process in those cases.

 

[MNW67]

All asylum seekers are criminals because they have to enter a country illegally in order to claim. Obviously, we don't want lots more criminals in our country. So, it is only logical that we should try to prevent any asylum seekers from coming here. Because they are criminals. And who in their right mind would welcome criminals into the country.

 

[motorbiking]

But lots are being returned to safe countries like Albania. What is the legal process in those cases.

Labour made changes to the process once they got in power, which hampered the ability to return those who had come via small boats. Being polite, they seemed to want to go in a different direction. It's not clear what that is yet.

All asylum seekers are criminals because they have to enter a country illegally in order to claim. Obviously, we don't want lots more criminals in our country. So, it is only logical that we should try to prevent any asylum seekers from coming here. Because they are criminals. And who in their right mind would welcome criminals into the country.

I think the politically correct view is that those coming illegally are queue jumping. if you buy in to the idea that the refugee council/government coordinates the redistribution of genuine refugees and the government is responsible for arranging safe routes and proper resettlement (e.g. the Ukraine or Afghanistan scheme), then those people paying traffickers should be discouraged by whatever legal means.

 

[noseall]

blah...blah...blah....

Yawn indeed.
I'd feel aggrieved if a migrant, a bloke on his holidays or an indigenous scrote assaulted my family. You speak as though a passport check, shields us all from dodgy holidaymakers. It doesn't. Just the same as posting pointless employment checks, when talking about people visiting here.

 

[MNW67]

Labour made changes to the process once they got in power, which hampered the ability to return those who had come via small boats. Being polite, they seemed to want to go in a different direction. It's not clear what that is yet.

But lots are being returned. A big increase under Labour. What is the status of these people. How can they be processed and returned if their applications are not accepted in the first place. Can anyone advise the procedures being used.

 

[motorbiking]

But lots are being returned. A big increase under Labour. What is the status of these people. How can they be processed and returned if their applications are not accepted in the first place. Can anyone advise the procedures being used.

or...

How has the number of immigration returns changed under Labour? – Full Fact

Sir Keir Starmer claimed there’d been 9,400 returns and that is a 30% increase compared to last year, but there doesn’t appear to be published data to back the second part of this claim up.

fullfact.org