WHO does not rule out that virus started in a Lab

[IT Minion]

I know it’s not all about me as we have all established yours is the only info that is correct apparently
Plus I have already answered your questions regarding percentages etc

Have you? I can't find it, could you point me to the post please? I've seen you say what isn't overwhelming, but never what would be.

Also, the information I'm using is apparently the same stuff you supplied, either that spreadsheet is wrong or its not.

 

[IT Minion]

The r rate is currently under 1
Weren’t we aloud out before when the r rate is similar?

Not when the number of cases was this high, well, some were (Tiers 1 and 2) between lockdowns two and three, and that was a terrible idea as it led to lockdown three.

Also, if people go out and socialize then the R value will go up.

 

[John the plumber]

So again, an insult in every post, and again you have no idea why this "scam" is taking place.

Stop implying I’m insulting people in every post just so the mods shut the forum down.
I have been insulted left right and centre multiple times and not once have you mentioned them

 

[John the plumber]

Not when the number of cases was this high, well, some were (Tiers 1 and 2) between lockdowns two and three, and that was a terrible idea as it led to lockdown three.

Also, if people go out and socialize then the R value will go up.

*If I get vaccinated*:/ Treatment 1.- Can I stop wearing the mask? - No .2.- Can they reopen restaurants etc and everyone work normally? - No .3.- Will I be resistant to covid? - *May be*, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it 4- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore? - *No you can still pass it on*, possibly, nobody knows.
5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally? - No.6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing? - No.7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands? - No.8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grand parents , can we hug each other/say goodbye before they die. - No.9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened as normal, after vaccines? - No 10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather the community closer? - No 11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination? - *The virus may not kill you*. 12.- Are you sure it won't kill me? - No 13.- If statistically the virus didn't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?" - To protect others. 14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them? - No 15.- is there liability if I get seriously injured or die? -NO So it is true that the shot does not give immunity. Does not eliminate the virus. Does not prevent death. Does not guarantee you won’t get it. Does not prevent you from getting Covid.. Does not stop you passing it on Does not eliminate the need for travel bans. Does not eliminate the need for business closures. Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns. Does not eliminate the need for masking.
Pretty pointless really.

 

[John the plumber]

Have you? I can't find it, could you point me to the post please? I've seen you say what isn't overwhelming, but never what would be.

Also, the information I'm using is apparently the same stuff you supplied, either that spreadsheet is wrong or its not.

Where did I say your using the same stuff I supplied?

 

[John the plumber]

Have you? I can't find it, could you point me to the post please? I've seen you say what isn't overwhelming, but never what would be.

What would be overwhelming is if the figures were true and the hospitals where at breaking point but they are not.

 

[IT Minion]

*If I get vaccinated*:/ Treatment 1.- Can I stop wearing the mask? - No .
2.- Can they reopen restaurants etc and everyone work normally? - No .
3.- Will I be resistant to covid? - *May be*, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it
4.- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore? - *No you can still pass it on*, possibly, nobody knows.
5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally? - No.
6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing? - No.
7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands? - No.
8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grand parents , can we hug each other/say goodbye before they die. - No.
9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened as normal, after vaccines? - No
10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather the community closer? - No 11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination? - *The virus may not kill you*. 12.- Are you sure it won't kill me? - No 13.- If statistically the virus didn't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?" - To protect others. 14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them? - No 15.- is there liability if I get seriously injured or die? -NO So it is true that the shot does not give immunity. Does not eliminate the virus. Does not prevent death. Does not guarantee you won’t get it. Does not prevent you from getting Covid.. Does not stop you passing it on Does not eliminate the need for travel bans. Does not eliminate the need for business closures. Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns. Does not eliminate the need for masking.
Pretty pointless really.

Your copy and paste stuff has been addressed elsewhere

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fit.th...ods-on-covid-19-vaccine-goes-viral-fact-check

 

[IT Minion]

<dodgy quoting>

So, there is no metric that would ever demonstrate the NHS was overwhelmed. You'll just know it if it's true.

 

[John the plumber]

Your copy and paste stuff has been addressed elsewhere

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fit.th...ods-on-covid-19-vaccine-goes-viral-fact-check

So what part are you stating isn’t true?

 

[IT Minion]

So what part are you stating isn’t true?

Read the link. I'm not going to copy and paste it all in here. It's more misleading than flat out false.

 

[Notch7]

*If I get vaccinated*:/ Treatment 1.- Can I stop wearing the mask? - No .2.- Can they reopen restaurants etc and everyone work normally? - No .3.- Will I be resistant to covid? - *May be*, but we don't know exactly, it probably won't stop you getting it 4- At least I won't be contagious to others anymore? - *No you can still pass it on*, possibly, nobody knows.
5.- If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally? - No.6.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing? - No.7.- If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands? - No.8.- If I vaccinate myself and my grand parents , can we hug each other/say goodbye before they die. - No.9.- Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened as normal, after vaccines? - No 10.- Will the vaccinated be able to gather the community closer? - No 11.- What is the real benefit of vaccination? - *The virus may not kill you*. 12.- Are you sure it won't kill me? - No 13.- If statistically the virus didn't kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?" - To protect others. 14.- So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I'm not infecting them? - No 15.- is there liability if I get seriously injured or die? -NO So it is true that the shot does not give immunity. Does not eliminate the virus. Does not prevent death. Does not guarantee you won’t get it. Does not prevent you from getting Covid.. Does not stop you passing it on Does not eliminate the need for travel bans. Does not eliminate the need for business closures. Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns. Does not eliminate the need for masking.
Pretty pointless really.

John, I am sure you will be very pleased to hear that the AZ vaccine:

Works very well against the Kent variant
And reduces transmission by at least 65%

So go and crack open a beer and relax....it's Friday evening.

 

[noseall]

I chose not to provide a link

Because you are a gullible mug boyo.

 

[John the plumber]

Read the link. I'm not going to copy and paste it all in here. It's more misleading than flat out false.

John, I am sure you will be very pleased to hear that the AZ vaccine:

Works very well against the Kent variant
And reduces transmission by at least 65%

So go and crack open a beer and relax....it's Friday evening.

Is that a brand new variant you speak of that has miraculously been found and is that the same vaccine that is 100% effective is it ?
No vaccine is 100% effective. So that solves that
Reduces it by SIXTY FIVE PERCENT.
Jesus I feel like I’m dealing with primary school kids.
Yes 65% means 100% now apparently

 

[John the plumber]

Because you are a gullible mug boyo.

With all due respect I have seen your posts in other forums and the media pictures of your house etc so I think we both know who the mug is gramps

 

[John the plumber]

So again, an insult in every post, and again you have no idea why this "scam" is taking place.

Quick I’m being insulted? Will you pick up on this aswell then??
Oh wait maybe you won’t.