Why free mobiles?

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  1. gasbanni

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  3. Harry Bloomfield

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    They are laughing at us..
     
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    Mind you

    you cannot blame these people for wanting to escape from France
     
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    It's very cruel what the people smugglers are doing presently. You'd have though Priti would have got a handle on it by now. Record numbers they say. Useless Tory feckwits.
     
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    so what should Priti do than ? To get a handle on it
     
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    She shouldn't have promised that she would have it sorted by now. It's right, fair and important to remind politicians that breaking promises is a big deal.
     
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    She should get herself promoted to Home Secretary and have a whole department at her disposal. She could then employ advisors, lackeys and busy-bodies and spend millions of taxpayers money to find a solution. Who knows what powers a HS could wield.

    Useless Tory waste of space.
     
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    Minion is dead right.

    Don't promise what you can't deliver.

    Mind you, the whole miserable shower have done that, not least Johnson.
     
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    But you voted for a Tory govt that cuts services, cuts benefits whilst it’s MPs get rich on bungs.

    the govt could afford to sort out our homeless and help asylum seekers
     
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    There was discussion that the home office were doing training exercises forcing the migrants to turn back...

    But there is a small group of people that are trying to take the government to court over the use of these tactics, they say it breaks the maritime code and human rights.. so the home office have now back tracked from this idea.

    But I'm not sure it does because unless the boat is in distress then they don't have to be accepted..

    Of course however it just needs one of the migrants to shout help and they will be considered as in distress.

    The Aussies carried out a similar strategy a few years back and it worked, and no one tried taking them to court or accusing them of breaking maritime laws etc etc..

    One thing I don't understand, is why not have a processing centre in Calais. Those that get asylum come over, those that don't stay in France or are flown back to wherever,

    The French need to do better at catching the gangs
     
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    The courts need to take some responsibility, how can someone still be lodging appeals 14 years after the process has started. Change the laws to put a stop to it, deport those found guilty of a criminal offence and process whilst abroad. Camp living for those who enter illegally.
    Genuine cases of those facing oppression should be treated with compassion.
    French, German, Spanish lessons etc in Calais for those who are economic refugees.
    Its a European wide problem that needs to be tackled as a whole by the international community.
     
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    Push backs are illegal, UK changed domestic law to make it legal….but that would only protect border force agents until the next election.

    Australia has been widely criticised for doing it.
     
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    Was there? Where? On National Front facebook page?

    Is there? Who are they?

    That's wise, best change tack before they're forced to.

    Have you thought this through? I guess not. How long should Border Force wait, while the refugees bob about with no fuel before deciding to rescue them?
    Your ideas are as whacky as Pixie Patel using submarine nets to prevent sailings.

    What is 'help' in Iraqi, Kurdish, Syrian, Somalian, etc? Or perhaps they all speak French and can shout 'm'aidez'.

    There's been dozens of inquiries into the mandatory detention policy.

    Why not have centres in Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Somalia, etc.

    UK must arrest people-trafficking ‘mafia chiefs’ in London, says French official
    ‘They live in London peacefully in beautiful villas,’ says Hauts-de-France politician on smugglers

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/migrants-uk-france-traffickers-london-b1964135.html
     
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    I've heard of ten years being not unusual, but fourteen years?

    What laws do you suggest changing?

    Deport to where?

    You mean like Australia's highly controversial mandatory detention policy? UK cannot accommodate those considered no risk and lets them go, let alone detaining any others.


    Of course. How do you differentiate?

    How do you differentiate?


    It's a global problem.
     
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    Free mobiles

    they should also get a free car as well

    obviously a leccy one

    and a lap top ?
     
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