Why the left have lost

That's like saying 'we won the brexit vote' it was only because alot of people were so disillusioned with the way the country was going they voted for what they 'believed' would make a change. (anti brexers do not thread hijack).
People didn't vote brexhit because they were disillusioned with the country, they voted brexhit because they were disillusioned with the EU. Nobody voted brexhit because local authorities were spending money on diversity officers.
And so in answer to your "400 seats" it was only because alot of people were so disillusioned with the way the country was going they voted for the 2nd sh1ttest option yes Tories are the worst they have all the sh't parts of labour and backhanding anyone and everyone going.
People also voted in large numbers for the greens, lib dems and for the 5th ****test option re -form. Dont under estimate peoples intelligence. 400 seats.
Those 400 seats will rapidly evapourate if they don't change their tune and start caring over caring about 400seats. That's how trump made a difference.
You mean adopt Trumpf’s diversity policies. Far rage is trying to hoodwink the nation into voting for him. People arent that stupid. This is England not Amurca.
On the surface he's putting USA first, he's getting rid of the millions spent on political correctness and focuring reward those who work hard irrespective of their appearance.
Mindless platitude designed for the hard of thinking. Classic culture wars approach to politics, find out what people hate and get them to vote for you. Sacking a few diversity officers isnt going to make a shred of difference to our countrys economy and it safety in the world.
Just like Brexit, we wanted them to put Britain first, but youll find it was thwarted by so many people wanting it to fail on top of misinformation.
Why didnt you vote re form then?
 
People didn't vote brexhit because they were disillusioned with the country, they voted brexhit because they were disillusioned with the EU
Well people voted for Brexit because they were told that all the decline and stagnant wages were the fault of the EU.

They were told that by the very people who have made this country sh1t.


Nobody voted brexhit because local authorities were spending money on diversity officers.
Indeed, that’s just a phoney culture war by uninformed people like Festive, a person who,pits people on ignore because he can’t cope with people who dismantle his Daily Mail propaganda
 
Ellal love ya man but wow you got some hate try and vent it in a good way.

You're missing the point. The left could have it all they could but as J Pie has rightly pointed out they really are missing what the people want. Yes it's not all about you and not me either. Example Desperately trying to seem pc just ****es off the normal people who don't even act in such a way.

Stop this stupid football mentality we should work together take what's left and right and help make a better society.

Making an attempt to protect the most vulnerable and disenfranchised members of society is something people want but the far-right have co-opted the mandate to determine what they get. Are you not entertained?
 
the left havent lost

it is ordinary citizens in the UK and in USA that have lost.


people are easily brainwashed, Festive is a perfect example..............he thinks "woke" is the major issue, its not. The major issue is the wealthy keep on increasing their assets whilst ordinary people keep ending up with less
 
Indeed, that’s just a phoney culture war by uninformed people like Festive, a person who,pits people on ignore because he can’t cope with people who dismantle his Daily Mail propaganda
Having been fairly critical of him in the early days, The Fail has become a full blown propaganda sheet for trumpf, it’s only instinct is to push further to the right. Kemi must be bricking it because if she does tne same, the toreys become indistinguishable from re form.
 
Having been fairly critical of him in the early days, The Fail has become a full blown propaganda sheet for trumpf, it’s only instinct is to push further to the right. Kemi must be bricking it because if she does tne same, the toreys become indistinguishable from re form.
interesting article by Kwasi Kwarteng in the Independent:


"Despite the flair for theatrics and egotistical bombast, Trump remains deeply distrusted in Britain, so it’s never been clear to me why so many of my colleagues in the Tory party prostrate themselves at his altar."

"I don’t think he is worthy of worship and adulation by a servile crowd of British political figures, many of whose careers are effectively over."

 
The far-right apologists in here can't argue their own agenda successfully, even on threads they start, and are too frit to post a rebuttal on threads they don't start. A bunch o' non-starters if ever i saw. If this were a horse race they'd be stuck in the paddock munching hay.
 
People didn't vote brexhit because they were disillusioned with the country, they voted brexhit because they were disillusioned with the EU. Nobody voted brexhit because local authorities were spending money on diversity officers.

People also voted in large numbers for the greens, lib dems and for the 5th ****test option re -form. Dont under estimate peoples intelligence. 400 seats.

You mean adopt Trumpf’s diversity policies. Far rage is trying to hoodwink the nation into voting for him. People arent that stupid. This is England not Amurca.

Mindless platitude designed for the hard of thinking. Classic culture wars approach to politics, find out what people hate and get them to vote for you. Sacking a few diversity officers isnt going to make a shred of difference to our countrys economy and it safety in the world.

Why didnt you vote re form then?
OK ill give you the EU point agree, but if you want to start breaking down my points ill take it further, some saw it as an opportunity for independence and renewal, others viewed it as a reaction against the perceived failures of both the EU and the UK government.
All your other points already display a typical mindset on here of how you know best and everyone else is stupid, a bit like the way Starmer and his amateurs operate, you will never listen to anyone especially the public, you diss people regarding 're-form' and 'brexhit' etc you can't help yourself can you, you're a cliche anti right winger, with a plethora of nicknames etc they all use. Perhaps an avid James Obrien fan disciple?
"Far rage" whilst ive commented on another thread i feel is leading a group who do actually have a manifesto that strikes a chord with many people like myself, however as i said before i do not believe they currently have the team needed to be a credible challenge. Tories aren't the answer and neither is Labour, Labour to me all of them remind me too much of a bunch of amateur parish counsellors that have somehow managed to take control of this country. Starmer i admire part of his makeup which is to make unpopular decisions, but i feel very much he's making the wrong ones.
Do you believe Labour is the best answer? Do you disagree with JPies article on youtube?

I agree with him there are alot of elements of the Left or Labour they could have it all, but they **** off too many other groups. I don't want all this diversity *******s i dont want the minorities put on a pedestal, i want a government that makes popular decisions in the interest of the British people. That seems to be the issue time over.

Re Trump and sacking a few diversity officers wont but the changes to “promote individual initiative, excellence, and hard work” by ending the use of “dangerous, demeaning, and immoral race- and sex-based preferences under the guise of so-called ‘diversity, equity, and inclusion’ is the right thing to do, did those lines make you blink like inspector Dreyfus as you read it?

Maybe ok for you, but ive seen first hand above many hard working people lose their jobs due to company quotas having to adjust their "ratios." Its utterly wrong. Something i have always been an advocate in my teams i employ strictly on merit only, irrespective of colour and sex(and will not tolerate any prejudiced behaviour. I dont want to or need to know if you're Trans anything i just want you to work hard and keep your personal sh't out of it, if you can't there is the door, boohoo if you can't deal with that. Imagine proclaiming today i have promoted my first Transgender worker.. pathetic.

So for me what Trump has done there is a positive, apart from that no i face palmed my way through the election shows supported by Hulk hogan etc, but like Starmer he seemed the only option, the best of a bad bunch.

I abstained from Voting for any of them they're all fekin useless. Reform i would consider but for now noone is suitable.
 
OK ill give you the EU point agree, but if you want to start breaking down my points ill take it further, some saw it as an opportunity for independence and renewal, others viewed it as a reaction against the perceived failures of both the EU and the UK government.
All your other points already display a typical mindset on here of how you know best and everyone else is stupid, a bit like the way Starmer and his amateurs operate, you will never listen to anyone especially the public, you diss people regarding 're-form' and 'brexhit' etc you can't help yourself can you, you're a cliche anti right winger, with a plethora of nicknames etc they all use. Perhaps an avid James Obrien fan disciple?
"Far rage" whilst ive commented on another thread i feel is leading a group who do actually have a manifesto that strikes a chord with many people like myself, however as i said before i do not believe they currently have the team needed to be a credible challenge. Tories aren't the answer and neither is Labour, Labour to me all of them remind me too much of a bunch of amateur parish counsellors that have somehow managed to take control of this country. Starmer i admire part of his makeup which is to make unpopular decisions, but i feel very much he's making the wrong ones.
Do you believe Labour is the best answer? Do you disagree with JPies article on youtube?

I agree with him there are alot of elements of the Left or Labour they could have it all, but they **** off too many other groups. I don't want all this diversity *******s i dont want the minorities put on a pedestal, i want a government that makes popular decisions in the interest of the British people. That seems to be the issue time over.

Re Trump and sacking a few diversity officers wont but the changes to “promote individual initiative, excellence, and hard work” by ending the use of “dangerous, demeaning, and immoral race- and sex-based preferences under the guise of so-called ‘diversity, equity, and inclusion’ is the right thing to do, did those lines make you blink like inspector Dreyfus as you read it?

Maybe ok for you, but ive seen first hand above many hard working people lose their jobs due to company quotas having to adjust their "ratios." Its utterly wrong. Something i have always been an advocate in my teams i employ strictly on merit only, irrespective of colour and sex(and will not tolerate any prejudiced behaviour. I dont want to or need to know if you're Trans anything i just want you to work hard and keep your personal sh't out of it, if you can't there is the door, boohoo if you can't deal with that. Imagine proclaiming today i have promoted my first Transgender worker.. pathetic.

So for me what Trump has done there is a positive, apart from that no i face palmed my way through the election shows supported by Hulk hogan etc, but like Starmer he seemed the only option, the best of a bad bunch.

I abstained from Voting for any of them they're all fekin useless. Reform i would consider but for now noone is suitable.
This arsehole thinks Reform is the answer when he can't even work out what the question is.
 
I'd assert it is.
then you are wrong

We now see these sort of stats:
no "we dont see these sort of stats"

what you have there is an interpretation of the Daily Mail

An absolute disgrace.
yes it is an absolute disgrace the way you fall for such a headline without doing any reseach

the Daily mail article is pathetic, first it has link supposedly to the source material but is just a link back to DM

then it doesnt address anything to so with the actual data


I suggest you read the Cass review rather than push Daily Mail propaganda
 
This is so on the button about left nowadays..with satire thrown in yes i know. This is part of the reason Trump has excelled. How much money are we wasting on 'diversity and bullsh't' this will all come back to bite us in the UK also. The right were right. (however the denial being the left call us extreme right now).

Left, right, pigeon hole people. There are good people on both sides. But to trod on a group for their beliefs because it is counter to yours is silly
If you can say hand on heart, Trump is pure as virgin snow give example.
 
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