Atmos - take heat from land rover and stores in home

[JonasX]

Would that be the same Atmos who are selling boilers of an obsolete Intergas design?

The design is not obsolete and still made and super-simple. Yes the same Atmos.

 

[Corgigrouch]

If Land Rover were so blooming clever they would be better making their engines a little more efficient.... Roughly 2/3 of all the energy in fuel escapes up the exhaust pipe.... The motor industry has proven years ago that this can be improved considerably but have chosen not to include these efficiencies on their vehicles yet.... The energy capture system is a red herring, Mercedes used to have them on their trucks to keep the cabin warm and it was a joke....

 

[JonasX]

what's "obsolete" about the Inter range of heat exchanges?

Maybe they do not break down enough for some people.

 

[Dan Robinson]

CG - that's the point if this device... Most of that wasted energy is heat and is the same with all internal combustion engines.

It's about time someone thought of something. Even if this doesn't come to fruition it is a good start.

My concern is the weight of the system counterbalancing the benefits.

In theory this could be more practical FOR SOME than one of those poxy hybrid cars.

 

[mysteryman]

I believe that Atmos are using obsolete Intergas designs. I did not say Intergas were obsolete.

 

[Dan Robinson]

I didn't say that you said Intergas was obsolete... read my question again.

Intergas make the Atmos boilers BTW.

It is an older design yes, but it's not obsolete.

 

[JonasX]

If Land Rover were so blooming clever they would be better making their engines a little more efficient.... Roughly 2/3 of all the energy in fuel escapes up the exhaust pipe.... The motor industry has proven years ago that this can be improved considerably but have chosen not to include these efficiencies on their vehicles yet....

The piston engines can only be pushed to around 40% and that is it - that is usually at constant speed with a constant load and constant temp. Too much pumping and friction losses to be of any real use. It needs a rotary design to get any further. There are many advanced rotary design about

Lotus have designed a small and light dedicated 3 cyl generator engine to power an on-board genny that powers and electric motor that drives the car. It is highly feasible right now. Jag have been looking at it.

Others, like Audi, are looking at small Rotaries turning a range extender genny to charge batteries. The car would be charged over night from the mains, so the very small rotaries are ideal for the odd use - can go under the boot.

The energy capture system is a red herring, Mercedes used to have them on their trucks to keep the cabin warm and it was a joke....

Times move on..we shall see.

 

[Corgigrouch]

Dan, you can only capture heat from a Land Rover if it starts in the morning....

Almost 10 years ago Renault developed engines that used no belts or gears to work timing gear but used electric solenoids to open valves to give infinitely variable timing and transmissions that relied on engines to run at a constant speed so that the engine could always run at its optimum speed.. I'm told that over 100mpg and startling power outputs were obtained from 1 litre engines..

Perhaps Dr Drivel could have his car filled with water like they did on top gear and turn his car into a thermal store....

 

[Dan Robinson]

My step sis-in-law has just bough a Land-Rover... We are going to by her a can of spray on mud for Christmas.

 

[Corgigrouch]

Lotus have designed a small and light dedicated 3 cyl generator engine to power an on-board genny that powers and electric motor that drives the car. It is highly feasible right now. Jag have been looking at it.

Great, a Generac from Machine mart powering a washing machine motor.... Hardly new technology, Diesel locomotives have used this system since the year dot.... You still have an inefficient piston engine but also have all the losses involved in turning mechanical energy into electrical energy and back to mechanical energy...

 

[JonasX]

Dan, you can only capture heat from a Land Rover if it starts in the morning....

Stop guessing. You don't know yet. They know all the answers don't they.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Dude - it was a joke...

 

[JonasX]

They know all the answers don't they!

Great, a Generac from Machine mart powering a washing machine motor.... Hardly new technology,

Lotus have made it work. You can buy a similar design now in the US. The Chevy Volt.

 

[Corgigrouch]

My pal is a Landrover fan but I took the rip out of him when I found out that he was driving his old Bentley to work one Winter because the Landy wouldn't start....

 

[JonasX]

Most of that wasted energy is heat aIn theory this could be more practical FOR SOME than one of those poxy hybrid cars.

The Prius is brilliant to drive.