Snags and solutions

[dingodeano]

Would you put M.E.B. clamp on the little bit of consumer pipe work before it enters plaster ? if not then where?

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• dingodeano
• 22 Jan 2013
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the meter is buit into kitchen unit

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• dingodeano
• 22 Jan 2013
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right bast to get at

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• dingodeano
• 22 Jan 2013
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[Spark123]

Don't see why not, what an awkward place to have a meter!
You also need to avoid hitting your finger with a hammer
Nice megger too

 

[JohnW2]

Would you put M.E.B. clamp on the little bit of consumer pipe work before it enters plaster ? if not then where?

Doesn't necessity dictate the answer? - as you imply, if not there, then there would appear to be no alternatives!

Kind Regards, John

 

[dingodeano]

I didn't have any other option. I was wondering if anyone else had any better ideas? As the clamp certainly wont be in an accessible place.
The mft is actually there to stop door swinging shut

 

[JohnW2]

I didn't have any other option. I was wondering if anyone else had any better ideas? As the clamp certainly wont be in an accessible place.

I'm not sure it's 'inaccessible' is a BS7671 sense - i.e. a non-MF JB there would probably be technically compliant (if it were not for the proximity to the gas pipe!). In any event, is there actually any explicit requirement for MEB/MPB terminations to be 'accessible'. It would make some sense, but I'm not at all sure that there is any such explicit requirement.

Kind Regards, John

 

[dingodeano]

Well if someone ever did an EICR they might not be so reasonable.
Condition and accessibility of main protective bonding conductor connections (543.3.2; 544.1.2)
And with it being a new peice of bonding i would like to have removed the ambiguity.
Anyone think it would be worth a metion on cert ? "i know the m.e.b. is in a rubbish place but i had no choice. I mean cut me some slack1 i had to lie belly down on that carpet for 30mins "

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Also the requirement is clamp is in a visible position: 514.13.1

 

[RF Lighting]

Akward to get to is fine. Inaccesible isn't.

I see no issue with putting it on that bit of pipe. It can be seen, and you can get a test probe on to it for inspection and testing.

RF's top tip: Attach the wire to the clamp before you fit the clamp, then you only have one akward screw to do up.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Nice megger too

Nice door stop also

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

would be worth a metion on cert ?

The locations is going to be documented on the cert anyway, if your confident that the clamp is visible and accessible, no probs! I have seen much worse.

 

[JohnW2]

Well if someone ever did an EICR they might not be so reasonable. Condition and accessibility of main protective bonding conductor connections (543.3.2; 544.1.2) And with it being a new peice of bonding i would like to have removed the ambiguity.

Yes, but you had no other option - and, as has been said, it is accessible enough to satisfy I&T requirements.

Anyone think it would be worth a metion on cert ? "i know the m.e.b. is in a rubbish place but i had no choice.

Quite. What would you say (given that it appears to be compliant) - just that it's 'awkward'? Anyway, pragmatically, what would it achieve? - no-one is going to move the gas meter as a consequence, regardless of what you write!

Kind Regards, John

 

[RF Lighting]

I've fitted much worse like all those bathroom basins I used to have to supplementary bond as an apprentice

 

[dingodeano]

Anyone think it would be worth a metion on cert ? "i know the m.e.b. is in a rubbish place but i had no choice.

Quite. What would you say (given that it appears to be compliant) - just that it's 'awkward'? Anyway, pragmatically, what would it achieve? - no-one is going to move the gas meter as a consequence, regardless of what you write!

Kind Regards, John

I know what your saying John but there a lot of "look how clever i am - that last sparky was shi*e " type tradesmen about. I would just like to get in there first. Defuse the argument for them. Maybe its how we are programmed to think nowadays watch your arse.
I knew that the clamp had to go there and am fine with it. I just like to know what you guys think thats all.
And its a welcome distraction from invoicing.

 

[dingodeano]

I've fitted much worse like all those bathroom basins I used to have to supplementary bond as an apprentice

Its made you the superspark you are today though.
On the subject of good old days (sort of) i was in wholesalers and they were showcasing a multi screen cctv setup with camera on car park camera on counter ect.
on one of the cameras a bloke was a counter with a very unflatering view from high level /behind showing off his thinning out hair. i thought poor bast*rd look at his baldy spot. of course i was even more upset when i realised it was me.

 

[RF Lighting]