fines for middle lane hogging

[itshere]

Then you should be banned for speeding. You are in breach of the terms of your licence. Ergo - you are a fool.

Then you should be banned for hogging. You are in breach of the terms of your licence. Ergo - you are a fool.

 

[bernardgreen]

I travel at the speed limit as do all the other people in the middle lane

LAst time on the M6 . Centre lane hogger doing about 45. Stayed there for many miles forcing cars at the speed limit to pull out into lane 3 which was full of traffic at 70 and above. Some close encounters as frustrated drivers behind the lane hogger mis-judged speed of cars in lane 3

Lane 1 was almost empty and the hogger could easily have moved into it.

 

[kingandy2nd]

I refuse to duck into the truck lane on safety grounds. If it empty or with plenty of room then fine. If it's busy - I'll sit in the middle lane on the speed limit. You can go in the silly lane on the right if you like. Is that OK with you?

Please read the rules joe, or even some of the posts I've made. What you've said is absolutely in line with the Highway Code and the new law.

You DON'T have to drive in the truck lane UNLESS it is empty or there is plenty of room.

You can sit in the middle lane at whatever speed you like for as long as you like if the left hand lane is busy and you're moving at a speed that is faster than the vehicles in that lane.

I.e you're only going to get done if you're driving in the middle lane when the left hand lane is clearly empty for the foreseeable distance ahead.

I thought we got to the bottom of this yesterday joe?

 

[masona]

At the end of the day, it's just common sense driving but won't works because most drivers are selfish and hothead. It's simple, when overtaking then return to the left hand lane when it's safe

 

[GeeTee]

https://www.gov.uk/motorways-253-to-273/lane-discipline-264-to-266

264

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past.

Only problem is on several motorway routes I use the road ahead is never clear and that number of slower-moving vehicles is an endless train of HGVs. Thankfully the variable speed limit sections have taken care of the worst of the "I'm an advanced driver don't ya know" types, whose idea of advanced driving and lane discipline seems to be driving 20 - 30mph faster than anyone else on the road and darting wildly from inside lane to outside lane and back again repeatedly every time they see a 20 foot gap between HGVs, deliberately swooping across as close as possible in front of the nose any other driver they do not consider to be as "advanced" as themselves

 

[joe-90]

Then you should be banned for speeding. You are in breach of the terms of your licence. Ergo - you are a fool.

Then you should be banned for hogging. You are in breach of the terms of your licence. Ergo - you are a fool.

But I'm not. Too many trucks in the slow lane.

 

[joe-90]

At the end of the day, it's just common sense driving but won't works because most drivers are selfish and hothead. It's simple, when overtaking then return to the left hand lane when it's safe

But if you are sitting in the middle lane in a stream of traffic and there are trucks in the slow lane - there is never a time to change lanes so you stay where you are. There's always the idiot lane on the right.

 

[kingandy2nd]

Only problem is on several motorway routes I use the road ahead is never clear and that number of slower-moving vehicles is an endless train of HGVs.

If that's the case mate, then it is perfectly acceptable to drive in the middle lane - providing that you are moving faster than the HGVs.

The problem seems to be that people think they have to immediately move back into the left hand lane after every single vehicle they over take. THAT'S NOT THE POINT!!

You should drive in the left hand lane whenever it is clear and safe to do so.

No guidance is given on to what exactly 'clear' is - but in my opinion if you're travelling on the motorway and there's a quarter mile space in the left hand lane before the next vehicle in that lane then you should move into that lane - otherwise just stay where you are until you overtake it.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

I travel at the speed limit as do all the other people in the middle lane

LAst time on the M6 . Centre lane hogger doing about 45. Stayed there for many miles forcing cars at the speed limit to pull out into lane 3 which was full of traffic at 70 and above. Some close encounters as frustrated drivers behind the lane hogger mis-judged speed of cars in lane 3

Lane 1 was almost empty and the hogger could easily have moved into it.

There you go, a complete and concise definition of a middle lane hogger, Joe isn't when he is doing 70 in middle lane with mild and slower traffic in lane 1.

What is amazing is how so many people find faults in other people's driving, and they have no idea how their own driving can be worst at times, hypocrites!

 

[itshere]

Then you should be banned for speeding. You are in breach of the terms of your licence. Ergo - you are a fool.

Then you should be banned for hogging. You are in breach of the terms of your licence. Ergo - you are a fool.

But I'm not. Too many trucks in the slow lane.

Then you are not middle lane hogging , you are only hogging if you stay in the middle when the inside lane is free. So why are you complaining.
I'll give you a toot when I whizz past for being so helpful to me . . . . bruuuuummm brruuuummmmmm

 

[Mikefromlondon]

I don't think we need to panic, how many police cars do you see on a motorways, how many drivers can they pull and issue a ticket?

Think of it in another way, there is a lion and a large herd of zebras, they all know there is a lion about, or they are in a lion territory, but at the same time they have to get on their business to survive, graze the grass, but one o0f them will later scum to the attack by that lion, so it may take perhaps 5 or more years before you may have to pay a £100 fine, so call it £20 quid per year extra for motoring costs. How the **** can everyone drive in one single lane 1?

Most people driving in middle lane aren't hoggers, there are genuine but only a handful of hoggers, lane 1 is also quite bad due to HGV leaving groves and your car can wonder quite a bit and become unstable.

 

[foxhole]

If a motorist is doing 70 in the middle lane what law is he breaking?
They're going to take money off people for doing nothing wrong now, bstrds.
If I ever get done for that I'll argue my case in court.

Driving without due care and attention.
Impossible to maintain a steady 70, your speedometer is not accurate enough, your car is unlikely to be powerfull enough and you would spend more time checking the speed than the road.
British motorways are also far to busy.
You probably also think the the horn is for greeting your friends and flashing your lights is a safe way to wave someone on.
No wonder insurance is so expensive with muppets like you on the road .

 

[JBR]

You probably also think the the horn is for greeting your friends and flashing your lights is a safe way to wave someone on.

It is, isn't it?

And hazard lights are for parking on double yellow lines, aren't they?

Sorry, but this thread is becoming a bit repetitive.

Joe, you're absolutely correct. Please continue to drive in the middle lane at 70mph, even if the inside lane is clear. I'm sure you're right that you're not breaking the law and that you will not be pulled over.

 

[bernardgreen]

I don't think we need to panic, how many police cars do you see on a motorways, how many drivers can they pull and issue a ticket?

Who needs police on the road when automatic systems can analyse the traffic flow and ANPR the offending vehicles. Getting an ANPR on a tail-gater requires a clear view of the rear of the car ( front is obscured by the car being tail-gated ). Only the last car in a chain of tailgaters will get caught. ( or so the rumours go )

 

[Mikefromlondon]

And how if someone cuts in front of you and forces you to tailgate them? i.e closes the gap that you had been maintaining prior to ANPR camera catching you tailgating the guy who just managed to cut you before the cameras, not giving you much chance to regap ?