Add an extra socket in stud wall?

[Iggifer]

Interesting, so it seems like your circuit is actually radial not ring, or they are both spurs. Or they are spurs off a 4mm radial.
It looks like someone has left a loop of cable past the plinth socket, for some unknown reasons. Perhaps that is the ring, perhaps not.
One simple option would be to daisy chain the new socket to the washing machine socket. This would limit it from being used from anything powerful while the washing machine is on, but if it's for lights it should be ok.
Look in your consumer unit and take a photo. Work out by switching one at a time which circuit breaker powers the kitchen socket. See if it says C20 or C32.
If C20, you can connect to the double socket or Fcu input side. If C32 then not, you can only connect the fcu output side.

More likely B20 or B32. I know it doesn’t make a difference to your statement but don’t want the OP to be confused.

 

[John D v2.0]

More likely B20 or B32. I know it doesn’t make a difference to your statement but don’t want the OP to be confused.

Thanks, silly mistake! The country I'm in at the moment seems to use type C for everything so I'm forgetting. Edited now.

 

[rezarf]

All downstairs socket are on same circuit breaker. It's a B32.



So when you daisy chain from washing machine socket, you mean from the socket under cabinets that the WM is plugged into?

Meaning the isolation switch would have to be on whenever we wanting to use the floor lamp.

 

[John D v2.0]

Ok so things are more restricted. Hard to determine if the taped cable is part of the ring without an electrician on site.

So when you daisy chain from washing machine socket, you mean from the socket under cabinets that the WM is plugged into?

Meaning the isolation switch would have to be on whenever we wanting to use the floor lamp.

Yes I mean exactly that.
To be honest, if you want to use the lamp while you're doing maintenance on the washing machine you can just unplug it. A socket is a perfectly fine method of isolation.
Although that socket should be fixed to something permanent not just floating around.

 

[rezarf]

Thanks for all the information and help.

Yeah I did wonder about that socket. The house was flooded 3 years ago and the full bottom floor got replaced.

So I would have thought the whole place would have been fitted new but as I go to different areas I find shortcuts .

Again thanks.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Interesting, so it seems like your circuit is actually radial not ring, or they are both spurs. Or they are spurs off a 4mm radial.

Hmm.

I'm seeing a socket with two cables, an FCU with two cables in one set of terminals and a single cable in another, and a socket supplied by a single cable which is controlled by that FCU.

What are you seeing which makes you think that?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Rezarf - what's the wiring at the light switch?

 

[John D v2.0]

Hmm.

I'm seeing a socket with two cables, an FCU with two cables in one set of terminals and a single cable in another, and a socket supplied by a single cable which is controlled by that FCU.

What are you seeing which makes you think that?

Oh yes oops, I was looking on my phone and the cables are so neatly dressed it looked like one cable! The CPC still looks like one even when I zoom in, perhaps it's sleeved together..
Sorry about the red herring, so OP you could spur off the socket if you like (although an electrician would do tests to make sure)
However it's still ok to spur off the underneath socket with the caveats about not being able to run a high power device off it at the same time as the washing machine.

 

[winston1]

Hmm.

I'm seeing a socket with two cables, an FCU with two cables in one set of terminals and a single cable in another, and a socket supplied by a single cable which is controlled by that FCU.

What are you seeing which makes you think that?

The FCU is unnecessary. The washing machine plug has a fuse already.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I was looking on my phone

If I can gently say this without restarting the argument - what has happened here is that you made a mistake because you were using an inappropriate device.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The FCU is unnecessary. The washing machine plug has a fuse already.

Not sure why you thought that was a useful reply to my post.

 

[John D v2.0]

The FCU is unnecessary. The washing machine plug has a fuse already.

The fuse is probably unnecessary at present, but If you want a switch above the counter it's one of the simpler ways. If he adds a second socket to the output then the fuse will be necessary.

 

[John D v2.0]

If I can gently say this without restarting the argument - what has happened here is that you made a mistake because you were using an inappropriate device.

Well if I didn't look on my phone I wouldn't look at all, and I'm sure you'd miss me if I were gone.

 

[rezarf]

Rezarf - what's the wiring at the light switch?

Living room light switch.

 

[winston1]

A two way switch with NO neutral then.