Woman and Sex, means biological sex.

[morqthana]

Like that in Oslo too, a lot of the toilets are mixed, all cubicles no troughs obviously

Any idea how long we're going to have to wait for the collapse of Norwegian society?

 

[morqthana]

Last year paramedics went to his house twice, I saw him coming out on a trolley once. I heard afterwards he had tried doing himself in.

And yet those who think that ridicule and hostility should be the way to treat transgender people walk among us.

 

[morqthana]

It would be hard if thats how you feel but I dont really understand I suppose.

That's a good start.

Next step is to accept that you not understanding does not mean it is right for you to ridicule, or deny, or act in a hostile way when dealing with the fact that something you don't understand exists.

 

[pete01]

I guess what's next is more and more people losing their confusion, probably at a rate proportional to their intelligence.

I'm confused.......LOL......Hahahahaha.

Ppfftttt...

 

[pete01]

That's a good start.

Next step is to accept that you not understanding does not mean it is right for you to ridicule, or deny, or act in a hostile way when dealing with the fact that something you don't understand exists.

You lost me when you try telling me what to do, now take your oversized brain and pi$$ off....thanks.

 

[denso13]

I don't bully anyone

now take your oversized brain and pi$$ off

 

[noseall]

I guess what's next is more and more people losing their confusion, probably at a rate proportional to their intelligence.

You are facing an uphill battle there

 

[morqthana]

The whole thing is odd really. Imagine going for a night out with a groupof friends and a transvestite was amongst the group,

I have done that.

In what way should that have been a problem, and why, and what should I have done about it, and why?

And also, amid all this discussion of transgenderism, why have you suddenly started talking about transvestism?

 

[Notch7]

You wouldn't have to "feel sorry" for them if they weren't subjected to the bigotry of a lot of the people we see here.

even without the bigotry and ignorance, being transgender is never going to be a walk in the park, it brings a lot of anguish and pain.

but I agree life would be a lot easier for the transgender community without it having become a phoney culture war leading to extremists on both sides.


I think what we are seeing is nostalgia of the past -there is quite a "trad wife" movement (Highway Man alluded to it).

 

[Notch7]

My wife has a few lesbian friends, really nice people and totally inoffensive.

I woudnt have thought she had time for friends given she is a trad wide doing all the cooking, cleaning, bringing up children.....

 

[morqthana]

Here is a scenario for all those who say that they don't mind trans people. If you went on a night out with a group of friends and one of the group was trans, it wouldn't be so bad and wouldnt be too awkward. Now imagine if you went into a bar on your own with a trans. Now I would be embarrased and hope to god nobody saw me who knew me and mistook that I was on a date or something. It is a point though or is it just me that feels like this?

It's not just you - you are not the only one who finds new/different things hard to understand and scary.

But let's look at the scenario which you say would embarrass you.

Is this person a trans man, or a trans woman?

Are you holding hands, linking arms?

Do you kiss them?

Basically if someone who knows you sees you with someone, why should they assume you're on a date?

If someone who knows you sees you with a mate they've never seen or met, why would they think you were on a date with a gay man?

If your wife saw you with a female acquaintance would you think it quite understandable for her to start shouting the odds about you having an affair?

 

[morqthana]

I have never ever seen or heard of a 4 legged trans. Never!

Is that supposed to mean something?

 

[morqthana]

What is your gender?

What is your sex?

= Both the same...

Who says that?

Got any proof that that notion isn't a complete fantasy?

 

[morqthana]

Is your wife trying to tell you something?

Andy

Maybe that he's the only one there constantly obsessing about sex, sexuality, gender.....?

 

[morqthana]

Yes they are, unless you are woke.

I bet you can't define "woke".

If you are born a male, you are a male.

If you are born a female, you are a female.

No amount of personal labelling is going to change that.

And I know you can't define "male" and "female".