Climate Change

[MNW67]

Barack Obama doesn’t seem too bothered about sea level rising, but I suppose he has enough money to loose but its odd that banks will still give you a mortgage on a seafront property unless it is an erosion area. - so they do not seem bothered about it either.

I've not followed this particular story!

 

[fillyboy]

I've not followed this particular story!

How convenient.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

As opposed to frittering it away on flood damage, fire damage and deaths?

Good thinking RAC.

I wouldn't expect you to be anything other than bamboozled by the 'experts' and what they're telling you.

 

[Justin Passing]

The mediaeval thing was a combination of el nino type events, one down there and something else North Atlantic I vaguely remember. It was followed by the "little Ice age", neither of which look anything like what we're seeing now.google it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period. They were fairly short term wiggles.

The problem we have now is around the rate of rise, the lack of time for species to adapt, and the lack of any prospect of reversion to any mean without something like a nuclear winter. We should expect bad things coming to humans - like droughts, water wars, mass migrations, destruction of coastal cities by sea level rise. They're talking about building an 80ft high sea wall in Jakarta Indonesia,

Sea level rise, facts and information

Seas are predicted to rise a foot by 2050, regardless of how much global carbon emissions can be reduced. Why is this happening, and what can we do to adapt?

www.nationalgeographic.com

The speed is a problem, because of the flip effect, positive feedback loops taking us to positions where there's no route back by mere reversal of the drivers..

As Sir Lord God Attenboro said, we'll be making things very difficult for humans, and its highly probably there will probably be some sort of human-caused extinction, but the planet will recover and get on fine without us for quite a while yet.
I remember seeing a TV prog explaining how, after only of the order of 10k years, there will be surprisingly little sign that we were ever here.
I don't mind. I'll be long gone.

 

[JohnD]

I wouldn't expect you to be anything other than bamboozled by the 'experts' and what they're telling you.

Are you Michael Gove?

When you have a health problem, don't see an "expert" doctor or surgeon.

Pop down to the greengrocer, or ask a bus driver to stitch up your heart valves.

When your house is on fire, don't call the fire brigade. Take advice from an internet "influencer."

Like Liz Truss, to damage the nation, don't involve experienced "experts" at the Treasury or the Bank of England. Follow ideas you found written on a lavatory wall.

 

[Koolpc]

The musical?

Exactly

 

[Koolpc]

Nope - we are actually overdue for an ice age

I feel it every time my master opens the freezer door!

 

[blup]

I look on climate change as this. If you are overweight (I am certainly not) then you need to watch what you eat, it isn't merely a diet, drop the weight and carry on as before you lost the weight. It is a life change that keeps the weight off. Likewise climate change is also a life change, change in the way we utilise energy, the way we look upon buying cheap products that are produced by poor manufacturing plants adding to the problem. My question is if we are to promote this lifestyle change in order to alter climate change, then why the hell is it being made so expensive to do, when we all know what we need to do but the green companies are making more money from green energy, it costs us less to be increasing our carbon footprint than to reduce it,

You should start a column

 

[Brigadier]

I remember seeing a TV prog explaining how, after only of the order of 10k years, there will be surprisingly little sign that we were ever here.

This is a very good book on the subject :

World without us, by Alan Weisman

 

[noseall]

Follow ideas you found written on a lavatory wall.

This forum is RAC's bog wall. He imagines fires floods and deaths from, are myths, bless his deranged socks.

 

[denso13]

Why so scared of global warming you only ever hear scaremongering
Even in recorded history it shows how the warmer times led to great prosperity and innovation, the medieval warm period allowed for longer growing seasons agricultural surpluses and population growth which in turn supported cultural achievements like the building of Gothic cathedrals and the rise of universities trade expanded cities flourished and societies had the resources to invest in art philosophy and technology. In contrast colder periods were often disastrous the little ice age brought shorter growing seasons failed harvests and famine, europe was struck by the great famine of 1315 during which millions starved due to relentless cold societal unrest grew economies shrank and in many regions innovation stalled cold harsh climates didn't just make life harder they made Civilization more fragile. Global warming is good for humanity, maybe that is why they are trying to stop it.

The big difference now is that we are inflicting it on ourselves by our actions when we could avoid it.

The notion that colder regions could do with a bit more sunshine is simply nonsense.

 

[Highway Man]

The notion that colder regions could do with a bit more sunshine is simply nonsense.

Bet you wouldn't say that if you lived in one.

 

[denso13]

Barack Obama doesn’t seem too bothered about sea level rising, but I suppose he has enough money to loose but its odd that banks will still give you a mortgage on a seafront property unless it is an erosion area. - so they do not seem bothered about it either.

There are no predictions that show all seafront properties will be under water within a mortgage timeframe. More guff.

 

[denso13]

Bet you wouldn't say that if you lived in one.

We already do. Do you think anyone extra few degrees would particularly harm the UK? More beach time eh...

 

[Highway Man]

We already do. Do you think anyone extra few degrees would particularly harm the UK? More beach time eh...

We don't, hence the summers are getting hotter and wild fires accross europe show this.