Diy Gas

[doitall]

Corgigrouch

I don't advocate DIY gas and never will.

Look at the other side of the coin.

DIY gas is not illegal, isn't it responsible to try and help the DIYer as best you can, instead of just letting him get on with it.

The same should apply to electrical and other trades as well.

 

[tonybhoy]

What puzzles me is that there are a number of guys here who have quite clearly put in the effort and or expense of obtaining an ACS and have then been registered which will have cost either their companies or themselves hard earned cash, plus have the expense of their public liabillity, upkeep of tools and vehicle, so a fair amount of cash has been spent which must be recovered yet these same people are happy to tell their potential customers that it is fine to DIY their own gas... At the moment all is going quite swimmingly but as money gets tighter are these same guys going to bellyache about how hard things are and that more and more of their customers are doing their own gas work?

I couldn't give a rats ar$e as to whether or not it is legal.. I'm running a business and every DIY self fix is money lost... Be honest would you guys do your job if you weren't making a decent living out of it? Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot....

Helping folk to be more informed so that their gas fitter does not blind them with bull$hit is one thing but undermining your own trade is another.

Hallefeckinglula.

Someone else living in the real world.

Don't know about anyone else but where I am this myth of lack of plumbers/tradesmen is just that a bl@@dy myth.

Over the past two years the amount of plumber/rgi vans has increased by about fivefold in my area and in the local rag where there used to be,at most, seven guys advertising now has upwards of 18 in any one single week so we are all chasing the same work and ultimately we will need to start cutting each others throats for that work.

There are guys advertising from as far away as 20miles,not good.Ok it is a very good area for work however one of those distant advertisers comes from an even better area so either he has had the same thing happen in his area or he is sh!te but certainly not very encouraging this additional competition.

Might just be me but things are definitely much quieter these last two months.

 

[tonybhoy]

I never wire up any boiler I install.

I have an electrician who does the boiler ,boiler controls,supplementary bonding and the MEB to the gas and the main bonding to the incomming cold main if required and I sleep at night knowing the installation is safe and in addition the customer pays the required £150 to the spark.

Is your electrician a member of the kennel club.

Nope,doesn't have to be

Are you sure about that

Yep,absolutely

 

[doitall]

And you never do any DIY work at home TonybHoy.

Better question do you know anyone that doesn't do job around the house.

 

[tonybhoy]

And you never do any DIY work at home TonybHoy.

Better question do you know anyone that doesn't do job around the house.

No I only do plumbing and heating in the house mate.

I pay for guys to do it right but almost always buy the materials and pay them cash.

No sense in me losing money to do DIY when I go out and earn to pay for the job to be done properly.

Don't get me wrong I do the odd bit of decorating and stuff and I labour to some of the guys working in the house if I'm a bit quiet.

The spark and I work on a job by job basis depending on what is being done as in he does my work for a nominal amount ex-materials and I do his.

Moved into this house I'm in about two and half years ago and have had a loft conversion done ,upgraded the main bathroom and a major and I mean major re-jig of the garden .Now that was a hard hard shift labouring wise.

Still got the Kitchen to do and the entire downstairs re-decorated and the the outside of the house to paint which I may do myself in the summer if things are still as quiet.

 

[Corgigrouch]

DIA I can appreciate what you say but surly we would be acting in a far more responsible way to do our best to dissuade them from doing their own work since we can tell them how to do the job that they want to do till we are blue in the face but they will do it their own way anyway, especially if they are trying to short cut the job or if the job becomes a little bit awkward to do it properly.

From my point of view if Mr DIY wants to try and he gets it wrong, then that is his choice, but what about his neighbours who didn't have a choice in the matter.. Explain how legal it was to their next of kin.

I think that we have all been to our fair share of DIY disasters.

 

[heatingman]

No DIY for me, dont even fix own boiler when fails.

 

[tonybhoy]

No DIY for me, dont even fix own boiler when fails.

Yer kidding,seriously?

 

[heatingman]

extended warranty, cheaper than taking time off, and less hassle from er indoors, I call, they come, nice shiny van full of spares, they fix, her happy, me earning.

 

[doitall]

No DIY for me, dont even fix own boiler when fails.

To show how stupid the law is, and yes it should be changed and the sooner the better.

When I was an registered gas installer working under the Company name, I could not touch my own boiler, legally.

Now I'm no longer registered I can.

 

[doitall]

I never wire up any boiler I install.

I have an electrician who does the boiler ,boiler controls,supplementary bonding and the MEB to the gas and the main bonding to the incomming cold main if required and I sleep at night knowing the installation is safe and in addition the customer pays the required £150 to the spark.

Is your electrician a member of the kennel club.

Nope,doesn't have to be

Are you sure about that

Yep,absolutely

(3) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraphs (1) and (2) above and subject to paragraph (4) below, no employer shall allow any of his employees to carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or service pipework and no self-employed person shall carry out any such work, unless the employer or self-employed person, as the case may be, is a member of a class of persons approved for the time being by the Health and Safety Executive for the purposes of this paragraph.

Stupid I know but it applies to any appliance

 

[tonybhoy]

extended warranty, cheaper than taking time off, and less hassle from er indoors, I call, they come, nice shiny van full of spares, they fix, her happy, me earning.

Fair dos if it works for you then fine.

Personally I'll just change my boiler when it goes faulty if the part is more than about £100.It's only two year old but it was cheap and wasn't worth paying an extended warranty for.

Currently WB will give you £250 cash-back(July) if you have installed one of their boilers in your own gaffe and are a RGI so I can fit a 37CDI with a two year warranty for about £750 which isn't much more than I paid for the existing boiler.

 

[Corgigrouch]

Might just be me but things are definitely much quieter these last two months.

Yep, it has slowed down here too and yes I have noticed a lot more new heating businesses started up too

 

[tonybhoy]

Spark doesn't have to Corgi registered but he does conform to the above.

 

[doitall]

Might just be me but things are definitely much quieter these last two months.

Yep, it has slowed down here too and yes I have noticed a lot more new heating businesses started up too

Haven't you lot noticed there's a slump on the cards.

House prices are falling rapidly, the building trade is coming to a standstill and there's no money in the high street.

Not only that they say it will take the average punter till June to pay off their credit card for Christmas