After a recommendation, please? For a socket with terminal clamps and USB ports

[PotatoSoup]

Perhaps making up small tails with push-in Wago connectors and fitting them to the sockets in the comfort of your lap/workbench, then you can push fit the wires when you're kneeling at the socket box, rather than having to wave a cordless around..

I'm googling!!...

 

[JohnW2]

How about one that is still shaped like a screwdriver (black n decker did one years ago?) rather than a pistol so you can drive it on the motor til the screw is almost home then turn it with a hand feel the rest of the way?

I've got a couple of those (still working!) but I personally wouldn't even use/'trust' them on electrical accessories!

Kind Regards, John

 

[PotatoSoup]

How about one that is still shaped like a screwdriver (black n decker did one years ago?) rather than a pistol so you can drive it on the motor til the screw is almost home then turn it with a hand feel the rest of the way?

I know a fair few DIYers - I'll ask to see if I can get my hands on one to experiment

Re your wago suggestion - do you know of a YouTube video I could watch on this, please? I can't picture what you mean fully but it sounds awesome being able to use wagos and doing the bulk of the job sitting down with the socket on my lap!! It's the "making up small tails" bit I'm flummoxed by

 

[PotatoSoup]

Is it a "pigtail" if I'm googling? All Americans making these videos so far ... Need someone using an English socket...

 

[flameport]

Is it a "pigtail" if I'm googling?

It's the same concept.

Americans use that method because their sockets (receptacles) have useless terminals that can only accept a single wire.
They still consider shoving a wire directly under the head of an exposed screw to be acceptable.
Probably so the wirenut industry can continue to sell their products.

 

[PotatoSoup]

I'll give it a whirl!

I'm also researching putting wagos in instead - thank you for that suggestion!

Thank you very much, everyone!! I very much appreciate your help

 

[PotatoSoup]

I'll give it a whirl!

I'm also researching putting wagos in instead - thank you for that suggestion!

Thank you very much, everyone!! I very much appreciate your help

It's the same concept.

Americans use that method because their sockets (receptacles) have useless terminals that can only accept a single wire.
They still consider shoving a wire directly under the head of an exposed screw to be acceptable.
Probably so the wirenut industry can continue to sell their products.

That's interesting thank you, glad I'm looking at the right thing. On some of the forums folks are saying that feeding 3 wires in to the wago and one out to the socket is technically a spur, please can you tell me, is that right?

 

[robinbanks]

I've got a couple of those (still working!) but I personally wouldn't even use/'trust' them on electrical accessories!

Kind Regards, John

I was thinking they might be OK because they wouldn't usually pull the skin off a rice pudding

I'm also researching putting wagos in instead - thank you for that suggestion!

These:

Wago 32A 3-Way Lever Connector 50 Pack - Screwfix

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If you cut some short (few cm) length of 2.5mm and attach it to the screw terminal on the socket and to one of the slots on the Wago, then you've effectively made the socket into something like an MK Rapid, and you might be able to find a way of doing this comfortably, electric screwdriver, whatever, while watching TV etc.. Then on the job site it's just push push push (you don't have to lift the levers on a wago to fit solid core cable, you can just push fit) - it's cost you 90p to convert the socket but..

One small note, there are non-lever wagos but they aren't rated to 32A

Yeap, there are still the faceplate screws but for the most part an electric screwdriver should be good for those (and pozi ones exist too!)

 

[robinbanks]

On some of the forums folks are saying that feeding 3 wires in to the wago and one out to the socket is technically a spur, please can you tell me, is that right?

I'm sure it's just a typo but it's 2 cores into the Wago (one from each side of the ring) and 1 to the socket. And there are 3 no. wagos; one for live, one for neutral and one for earth

Are they saying there's something wrong with it/"technically" it's a problem?

 

[SFK]

Inside a Wago connector

 

[Sureitsoff?]

Might a t handle ratchet screwdriver help? Like this for instance

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[JohnW2]

.... On some of the forums folks are saying that feeding 3 wires in to the wago and one out to the socket is technically a spur, please can you tell me, is that right?

That's an interesting one because, although I've never really thought of it before, I suppose it's technically true (as robinbanks has said, I presume you mean the two ring conductors plus one going to the socket going into a '3-way' Wago)- although I imagine that most people really think of the Wago as being an 'extension of the socket's terminal'.

However, as robinbanks has also said, it doesn't matter, since there is absolutely nothing wrong with a (one) socket being supplied via an 'unfused spur' from a ring.

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

I was thinking they might be OK because they wouldn't usually pull the skin off a rice pudding

They're obviously less violent than 'cordless drills' (and lookalikes) but the couple I've got are (still, at a very old age!) pretty powerful, even though they are only 2.4V - I certainly cannot stop the rotation 'manually'. Perhaps 'worse', at least mine don't have an torque limiter/control, so one's only choice is to get the 'full blast'. One of mine ...

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

Might a t handle ratchet screwdriver help? Like this for instance

I have one of those and use it all the time. It's great

Kind Regards, John

 

[Sureitsoff?]

That's an interesting one because, although I've never really thought of it before, I suppose it's technically true (as robinbanks has said, I presume you mean the two ring conductors plus one going to the socket going into a '3-way' Wago)- although I imagine that most people really think of the Wago as being an 'extension of the socket's terminal'.

However, as robinbanks has also said, it doesn't matter, since there is absolutely nothing wrong with a (one) socket being supplied via an 'unfused spur' from a ring.

Kind Regards, John

I suppose you could use a 5 way wago and take two cables to the socket...