Nationalists?Sadly there are some people who believe their own identity to be superior to others.
They touched on the original thread title yesterday - reason for doing the study again. They have identified a number of reasons associated with why some die and some don't and want to look at tying those aspects in as well.
The 2nd in line science man who tends to explain things a bit better than the chief put it this way. At the moment I would find it hard to determine the likely hood of death between a 70 year old asian marathon runner and an overweight 30 year old white person.
This needs another comment adding from earlier. Take a super fit 30 year old who finishes up on a ventilator. It can take a further 6 months for them to recover. People can finish up as weak as a kitten and hardly able to walk. Also short of breath anyway. Cases start building up in the 20 to 29 age group - females. Males more from lower numbers 20 to 29 to 50 to 59. Curious thing, there is a bit of drop in case numbers of both in the 60 to 69 group.
The 2nd in line science man who tends to explain things a bit better than the chief put it this way. At the moment I would find it hard to determine the likely hood of death between a 70 year old asian marathon runner and an overweight 30 year old white person.
This needs another comment adding from earlier. Take a super fit 30 year old who finishes up on a ventilator. It can take a further 6 months for them to recover. People can finish up as weak as a kitten and hardly able to walk. Also short of breath anyway. Cases start building up in the 20 to 29 age group - females. Males more from lower numbers 20 to 29 to 50 to 59. Curious thing, there is a bit of drop in case numbers of both in the 60 to 69 group.
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I think that illustrates perfectly why there is not an English identity nor ethnic group.
I don't really know. Perhaps they realise British includes the whole country instead of limiting them to part of it - but then I am British as well as English.
I, from Devon, have no more in common with someone from Newcastle than a person across the border in Scotland.
The terms British and English are so mixed up and the population of England such a majority that unless one is in Scotland or Wales it makes little difference.
Yes, it also depends whether a person is descended from the rulers or the enslaved.
Of course, there is also the fact that a majority don't know anything about it and are just told.
In cancer treatment now, there is a whole research arm directed towards treatment personalised to the individual's genetic makeup. I. E. each person has their own unique susceptibility to any cancer.
It may well be that CV is the same, and that these "vulnerable groups" are latterly found to be no such thing. Like, it started off with "+70, and / or underlying conditions".
Then, with more cases, the age started to come down, and "no underlying conditions" started to be identified.
Doesn't affect kids, and then we hear today off three kids in new York with no reported underlying conditions nor symptoms, very quickly deteriorating and dying.
As I've said before, only time will tell.
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It is good that when a seemingly puzzling correlation is discovered, and brought to general awareness, as some, including Bodd, have done.
But when the causation is wildly speculated, and astonishingly, studiously defended, it does beg the question of the motivation. That comment applies to all sides in the discussion.
It is one case for opining (as in whether the government have handled the crisis properly), but a completely different case for when speculation is rife for the causation of correlations in very complex, complicated and sometimes sensitive issues.
As ajohn highlights, even the experts in their fields disagree and iterate and reiterate studies to arrive at a final (and even then tentative) conclusion.
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Of course I'm aware of the Normans John, thanks. I know a lot about them - they are said to have been a very wise people. Norman wisdom helped this country a lot.
Funny.
Underlying conditions is an interesting one. How many have 80/120 blood pressure and a heart rate of 60 at rest that goes up to 100 plus with exercise and recovers back to what it was rather quickly. 
I did have for a long time.
Who's had a diabetic test and found they are reckoned to be pre diabetic or close. Really bad test that one. Goes up with age and my wife for instance ate a bunch of grapes a week before hers so failed. Had another a month later and told to continue her new healthy life style - difference she didn't eat any grapes. Me slightly over so discussed my usual diet with the doctor - result oh the reading goes up with age anyway what ever you do.
I do know what I could do to reduce it.
I had a severe sharp pain in an arm muscle and some trouble with a shoulder joint. Blood tests - rheumatoid markers a touch high. Turned out to be a strained joint. Didn't fancy going in to have a bone joint scrape so got a steroid injection as a favour. Doc can only do so many a year. Reduced inflammation and problem went away. Sent for a scan earlier - small muscle tear found on the side with no problem. Nothing found on the other side. Man said scans seldom show any problems but loads of people get scanned -ultrasound of course.
Given a blood sample they can spot all sorts of markers So what degree do they need to be to be complications.
Aerobic exercise - interesting one. Actually burning reserves needs twice as much oxygen as what has recently been digested. People really pant even when extremely fit. Few exercise that hard.
LOL My shoulder - trying to hard in tai chi classes for 50year+ people. Actually I might say 30+ if people want to do full sets. Laid off it for 6 months as the arm really hurt. Due to restart and guess what cropped up.
I did have for a long time.Who's had a diabetic test and found they are reckoned to be pre diabetic or close. Really bad test that one. Goes up with age and my wife for instance ate a bunch of grapes a week before hers so failed. Had another a month later and told to continue her new healthy life style - difference she didn't eat any grapes. Me slightly over so discussed my usual diet with the doctor - result oh the reading goes up with age anyway what ever you do.
I do know what I could do to reduce it.I had a severe sharp pain in an arm muscle and some trouble with a shoulder joint. Blood tests - rheumatoid markers a touch high. Turned out to be a strained joint. Didn't fancy going in to have a bone joint scrape so got a steroid injection as a favour. Doc can only do so many a year. Reduced inflammation and problem went away. Sent for a scan earlier - small muscle tear found on the side with no problem. Nothing found on the other side. Man said scans seldom show any problems but loads of people get scanned -ultrasound of course.
Given a blood sample they can spot all sorts of markers So what degree do they need to be to be complications.
Aerobic exercise - interesting one. Actually burning reserves needs twice as much oxygen as what has recently been digested. People really pant even when extremely fit. Few exercise that hard.
LOL My shoulder - trying to hard in tai chi classes for 50year+ people. Actually I might say 30+ if people want to do full sets. Laid off it for 6 months as the arm really hurt.
Due to restart and guess what cropped up.
What would you know about 'manning up'?
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Is there a Scottish Ethnicity
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