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The people of NI voted to remain, so why can their wish not be respected?
I appreciate the comments about it being a UK wide referendum, but we are now talking about different and difficult situations to be overcome. Situations that were not envisaged when the referendum was designed.
Why would anyone refuse to "go back to the drawing board" if the current process is not providing the desired outcome.
Why are you still going on about this, the people in N.I. people voted for the UK to remain in the EU
1. That statement is true, but the remaining part of your comment is speculation as there was no part of the referendum that considered that question:
they didn't vote for N.I. outside the UK remaining in the EU, the people in Scotland voted to remain
And then you completely ignore wannabe's comment: there are now different and difficult situations and problems to be overcome, so why not "go back to the drawing board" because the current approach is clearly not providing acceptable solutions.
Correct me if I am wrong, wannabe, but I assume you're talking about the "design" of the referendum, i.e. the referendum was designed to give a UK-wide decision. (Although there does not appear to have been that much thought put into the design of the referendum). But that "design" has created its own problems, so why not go "back to the drawing board" and re-think that design.
It's obvious now that the referendum was poorly considered and badly executed. Therefore those who now argue that the "design" of the referendum should be respected are ignoring the problems and situations created by that referendum and its design, and, for obvious reasons, they're pointedly refusing to reconsider "going back to the drawing board"
So why not iterate? Go back to the drawing board and re-design a referendum that can deal with the problems and situations that have now become apparent?
There are other issues that could be incorporated into a second referendum: a) reconsider the potential participants of the referendum. It's absolutely clear now that some very interested parties were (actively) excluded last time, and
b) (if it was re-run UK-wide) consider the various possible outcomes, etc.
maybe the EU should put up border posts at Hadrians wall so that the Scots can remain in the customs union along with Ulster.
The border issue is a political red herring, most of N.I. trade is with the UK, North / South trade compared to trade between the RoI and the UK is tiny.
Regardless of what happens in N.I. there is going to be a border between mainland UK and the EU at the ferry ports so will that be a hard border?
Forgive my assumption, if it's incorrect, but it sounds like you actively desire the return of a hard border between RoI and NI?
You cannot simply ride roughshod over the majority of the people of NI and ignore their aspirations, not to mention the people of RoI.
