Channel migrants face lifetime ban on returning to UK

[SirGalahad]

more to the point.

how many have been processed and returned?

That would require investment, a determined approach and not a contract to your mates or the lowest cost operator.

 

[SirGalahad]

Three word slogans.

Oven Ready Deal
Take Back Control
Get Brexit Done
Stop the boats

Why do you fall for them, again and again.

 

[transam]

Good policy

Turn up
Illegally and you get deported back from where you came or sent to Rwanda with in 28 days

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That would require investment, a determined approach and not a contract to your mates or the lowest cost operator.

Oh.

Like a long term solution ?

 

[SirGalahad]

Oh.

Like a long term solution ?

They have had over a decade of short term solutions and we are still at square one - they don't want it solved - it keeps their voting public distracted from the real issues affecting peoples lives.

 

[SirGalahad]

Good policy

Turn up
Illegally and you get deported back from where you came or sent to Rwanda with in 28 days

It's an unworkable policy and impractical that on the face of it sounds good and that is enough for the dense.

The same people who fall for these policies time and time again won't stop to bleat about similar policies that don't work.

 

[ajohn]

It's just a law to be passed. Little ground work done to allow it to work. A couple done.

Albania - have agreed to have people back. Some taken back but not as many that had arrived last year. No where near as many,

Rwanda - only expect a couple of hundred. The legal enquiry on that still running. A result expected "soon".

Announcing it may be a deterrent but the other 2 similar noises made were not. They appeared to increase arrivals. So this law applies from today but her legal people have doubts about legality. Sunak reckons it's all his idea,

Sure we can pass a law but when that gets to court judges interpret it and may decide it's garbage.

Establish safe routes - eventually.

Deport to original country. It would need the military to do that in some cases and thanks to stinger gifts to all and sundry the aircraft might get shot down.

Other countries - invade their air space or get legal permission. Perhaps the pilot is going say I'm going to land what ever you say or do.

So why not sort the important aspects 1st.

C4 just showed some about tu try a crossing being pepper sprayed.

Did you know that Germany get well over twice as many applications and France is also well ahead of us in that respect.

 

[transam]

It's an unworkable policy and impractical that on the face of it sounds good and that is enough for the dense.

The same people who fall for these policies time and time again won't stop to bleat about similar policies that don't work.

And your solution is what other than to whinge ?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

The owner sold out. He didn't have to.

Are you saying that owners won't sell out here?

 

[SirGalahad]

And your solution is what other than to whinge ?

The retort of all RW once their BS is called out.

You were told this would happen and it has come to pass.

You voted for this - own it.

 

[transam]

The retort of all RW once their BS is called out.

You were told this would happen and it has come to pass.

You voted for this - own it.

So you don’t have a solution than

No surprise there than

Typical RWR response

 

[Deleted member 18243]

lots of these boat arrivals throw away their documents,

GOTCHA!

Meself and others have saying for a long time that the boat invaders ditch their documents, but yourself and others denied it and said we were extreme right-wing extremists. If the loony left weren't always 5 years behind in recognising problems something might get done...

lots of these boat arrivals throw away their documents..............it just make the process harder for them

They throw the documents away to prevent our dumb guards knowing their safe country of origin.

 

[Koolpc]

boring predictable false argument trotted out by the right

its like you are all brainwashed...oh wait you are


Tedious though it is, since you cant seem able to absorb facts, once again:
There are no legal routes for people from most of the countries suffering war or persecution (Syria, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq etc)

Try a different country then! Go somewhere else.

 

[Notch7]

Try a different country then! Go somewhere else.

I don’t need to move to another country just because you can’t accept facts.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

For all those thinking it's sorted. YYou might not like this .....



Throughout the plan the wording aims to limit rights to appeal and to make it harder for arriving migrants to make a claim to stay on.
Supporters say this brings much needed common sense to a system that has too many rights of appeal and delays to allowing ministers to act for the public.
But none of that can do away with the simple fact that the home secretary herself does not know if this plan can succeed. In a letter to MPs, she simultaneously says she believes the plan is workable but it has more than a 50% chance of failing in the courts.
What this means in practice is that her own lawyers have told her it could be torn to shreds if it is challenged as unfair and inhumane.
It is exceptionally rare for a minister to introduce a bill while admitting this possibility. And that in turn would leave MPs asking why they should vote for it in the first place.