Climate change.

[joe-90]

What we do know is the ice caps are melting at a crazy rate and the WILL effect climate. The jet stream is all over the shop these days.

 

[enyam]

Are the two related or just a coincidence.

 

[joe-90]

Related.

 

[enyam]

Go on then, one is on the surface the other is thousands of feet up.

 

[tony1851]

Google wrote

The cooling effect of sulphur pollution on climate has long been recognised by scientists studying volcanic eruptions, which have, for example, caused failed crops and famines in the past. Sulphur dioxide forms droplets of sulphuric acid in the stratosphere, which increases the reflection of the Sun's heat back to space, cooling the Earth's surface.

The effect also explains the lack of global temperature rise seen between 1940 and 1970: the effect of the sulphur emissions from increased coal burning outpaced that of carbon emissions, until acid rain controls were introduced, after which temperature rose quickly. Some have even proposed sulphur dioxide could used to geoengineer the planet by deliberately injecting millions of tonnes into the atmosphere to combat warming.

This is all fancy words designed to impress and to try and explain away inconvenient date. What it translates to is; 'like the rest of us, the scientists haven't got a clue'

 

[joe-90]

Go on then, one is on the surface the other is thousands of feet up.

All weather comes from the ocean - surely you know that much?

 

[Norcon]

Google wrote

The cooling effect of sulphur pollution on climate has long been recognised by scientists studying volcanic eruptions, which have, for example, caused failed crops and famines in the past. Sulphur dioxide forms droplets of sulphuric acid in the stratosphere, which increases the reflection of the Sun's heat back to space, cooling the Earth's surface.

The effect also explains the lack of global temperature rise seen between 1940 and 1970: the effect of the sulphur emissions from increased coal burning outpaced that of carbon emissions, until acid rain controls were introduced, after which temperature rose quickly. Some have even proposed sulphur dioxide could used to geoengineer the planet by deliberately injecting millions of tonnes into the atmosphere to combat warming.

This is all fancy words designed to impress and to try and explain away inconvenient date. What it translates to is; 'like the rest of us, the scientists haven't got a clue'

The farmers have plenty of clues with their crops laying rotting in the fields.
The jet stream was well pushed back this year due to north pole warming.

 

[enyam]

Yes but does the ice cap melt dictate the jet stream or does the jet stream dictate the ice cap melt.

 

[joe-90]

Yes but does the ice cap melt dictate the jet stream or does the jet stream dictate the ice cap melt.

Neither. The melting ice cap affects the Gulf Stream which in turn affects the Jet stream.

 

[Norcon]

It was predicted last September that the winter would be a very long one and they got it right.

 

[tony1851]

The climate has been going up and down for millenia. Remember in Egypt, they had the 'seven fat years and seven lean years'.
I bet they weren't grumbling about climate change then.
Oh yes, and the Romans had vineyards in this country.

 

[joe-90]

In 1962 the coldest winter in decades followed the coldest spring in decades.

Guess what? We've just had another coldest spring in decades. My tip is that we are heading for another big freeze.

 

[joe-90]

The climate has been going up and down for millenia. Remember in Egypt, they had the 'seven fat years and seven lean years'.
I bet they weren't grumbling about climate change then.
Oh yes, and the Romans had vineyards in this country.

But did the poles melt over a few decades? No.

 

[tony1851]

It was predicted last September that the winter would be a very long one and they got it right.

No; they guessed right for once. It's always 50/50 whether we get a mild or cold winter.

 

[tony1851]

The climate has been going up and down for millenia. Remember in Egypt, they had the 'seven fat years and seven lean years'.
I bet they weren't grumbling about climate change then.
Oh yes, and the Romans had vineyards in this country.

But did the poles melt over a few decades? No.

They might have, or they might not have. Who's to know?