Covid Passports Confirmed

[IT Minion]

How do foreign countries validate this 'code'?

It's standard 2 factor authentication stuff in the world of IT. The short version is that a combination of date, your user ID and a token from the NHS severs is encrypted. Anyone can send that encrypted data to the NHS servers which can decrypt it and let the local official know if it is valid or not.

the person sending the details off doesn't get to see anything excessive, the person being validated can't forge it easily and everyone is slightly dissatisfied.

 

[IT Minion]

So an international convention is organised, and a set pattern is agreed upon. That'll probably take a few moths/years.

They are already happening, this App is just the result of the EU/UK engagement.

Eventually there'll be one or two standards to rule them all, but in the mean time there's going to be a load of different ones.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

I get the feeling that people almost get off on this type of countrol. Others just like being seen to be the best at following rules.

However, remember that rules are for the guidance of wise men, and obeyance of fools.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Say, for example, the US decided not to have covid passports.

Would no one from the US be allowed into Britain or the EU?
Or if allowed in, they would not be allowed into any shops, pubs etc.

Such a system would be unworkable.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Say, for example, the US decided not to have covid passports.

Would no one from the US be allowed into Britain or the EU?

It would probably be like the situation we have now - one rule for us, another rule for others. Eg. we're virtually banned from travelling at present, but 8,000 tourists enter The UK every day.

 

[IT Minion]

Say, for example, the US decided not to have covid passports.

Would no one from the US be allowed into Britain or the EU?
Or if allowed in, they would not be allowed into any shops, pubs etc.

Such a system would be unworkable.

Yes, unless we decided their Covid-19 rates were so low that no Covid-19 passport was required at all. That might work for New Zealand for example where there is more or less no Covid-19 at all. Having said that do we want unvaccinated people flying in, getting infected and taking up our hospital beds? Probably not.

On the other hand will they let people go in there from here without a passport? Probably not. Which would block most travel in practice. This is why there's a level of reciprocity in all these agreements.

A minor point perhaps, but there are already Covid-19 passport's in use in other parts of the world and travel bridges in place between countries that trust each other. It's silly to say something is unworkable when it is already working.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I see.

So, the US will be isolated. Yeah right.

 

[IT Minion]

I see.

So, the US will be isolated. Yeah right.

No, they'll issue passports just like everyone else.

let's check back in three months and see which is closer.

 

[SirGalahad]

Say, for example, the US decided not to have covid passports.

Would no one from the US be allowed into Britain or the EU?
Or if allowed in, they would not be allowed into any shops, pubs etc.

Such a system would be unworkable.

Think of the dual nationals...

 

[SirGalahad]

They want you to download the NHS app, a lot of people will but many will not for various reasons -

Tolkien Knew, he really did..

One App to rule them all, One App to find them, One App to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

 

[EFLImpudence]

No, they'll issue passports just like everyone else.
let's check back in three months and see which is closer.

They might, but it was a hypothetical question.

Should the US consider such a thing an affront to their personal liberty, what would the UK do?
Ban them or forget about it?

 

[SirGalahad]

They might, but it was a hypothetical question.

Should the US consider such a thing an affront to their personal liberty, what would the UK do?
Ban them or forget about it?

Special Relationship.

 

[Mottie]

So an international convention is organised, and a set pattern is agreed upon. That'll probably take a few moths/years.

Don’t be daft. 70 million people are hardly likely to be going on holiday abroad at the same time are they?

 

[ellal]

Yes, unless we decided their Covid-19 rates were so low that no Covid-19 passport was required at all. That might work for New Zealand for example where there is more or less no Covid-19 at all. Having said that do we want unvaccinated people flying in, getting infected and taking up our hospital beds? Probably not.

On the other hand will they let people go in there from here without a passport? Probably not. Which would block most travel in practice. This is why there's a level of reciprocity in all these agreements.

A minor point perhaps, but there are already Covid-19 passport's in use in other parts of the world and travel bridges in place between countries that trust each other. It's silly to say something is unworkable when it is already working.

Ergo a global ID/tracking system is being created!

Sadly fear is always a 'weapon' that the ruling elite use to increase control...

But for the first time the technology (however flawed) is available to implement much more draconian measures...

Today a 'virus', what will be the next excuse for further restrictions?

What vaccines/drugs will be forced on the world population in order for people to lead the 'new normal' life?

And what happens when the data gets hacked or is entered wrongly?

 

[Mottie]

They can't check the systems of another country to ensure it's valid.

Well a foreign car hire company can check the validity of my driving licence in about 10 seconds on the government web site so I don’t see why not.