Dawn Butler exposed

[Brigadier]

If you see the headline as a misrepresentation, then either you are mistaken or you do not understand the difference between some police being racist, and that racism being systemic.
I repeat the first line of the article for your perusal:

Two-thirds of black and minority ethnic people feel there is bias against them within police forces, a survey has found.​

Which is what I have already said, you lackwit.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Which is what I have already said, you lackwit.

You're confusing your ability to be abusive with your ability to comprehend news article, and your own response.
Would you like another go at your original comment?

 

[Brigadier]

You're confusing your ability to be abusive with your ability to comprehend news article, and your own response.
Would you like another go at your original comment?

Would you?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Would you?

OK. I'll try again, see if you understand your error then:

Fook me, you only have to read three or four paragraphs in to see the bias / misrepresentation in the headline.

Ethnic minorities feel UK police are racially biased, report says
Two-thirds of black and minority ethnic people feel there is bias against them within police forces, a survey has found.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53843240​

Now perhaps you'd like to explain how you think the headline was biased, bearing in mind the headline is about perception of BAME people, not about whether the police force is systemically racist or not.

 

[johnny2007]

Perhaps I should have been more simplistic in my response: what characteristics do you think the police were using to identify the suspects?

You make sense only to yourself.
Police must profile people, otherwise they'll be forever stopping randomly without success.
If intelligence says that a green alien with 2 heads is selling drugs, why would a police officer stop anyone not fitting this description and not acting suspiciously?

I'm also quite interested in how you know so many minute details of this story, and the outcome, and the process?

Try getting involved with neighbourhood watch.
They hold meeting every month with local top brass involved and they share intelligence.
You could also volunteer to be a neighbour co-ordinator and represent neighbours who can't attend these meetings but want to be heard.

 

[Brigadier]

OK. I'll try again, see if you understand your error then:

Ethnic minorities feel UK police are racially biased, report says
Two-thirds of black and minority ethnic people feel there is bias against them within police forces, a survey has found.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53843240​

Now perhaps you'd like to explain how you think the headline was biased, bearing in mind the headline is about perception of BAME people, not about whether the police force is systemically racist or not.

As your last paragraph doesn't make sense anyway, it's pointless me trying to explain it as it stands.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You make sense only to yourself.
Police must profile people, otherwise they'll be forever stopping randomly without success.
If intelligence says that a green alien with 2 heads is selling drugs, why would a police officer stop anyone not fitting this description and not acting suspiciously?

It's not just about profiling, it's also about the approach to people who have been stopped.
Additionally, when it becomes so bad that the community starts to react against such profiling, the police ought to stop and think, "is our profiling reaping rewards or causing distrust?"

Try getting involved with neighbourhood watch.
They hold meeting every month with local top brass involved and they share intelligence.

Details such as a local resident near the park entrance reporting youths drug dealing? That'll go down well with the informants!

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

As your last paragraph doesn't make sense anyway, it's pointless me trying to explain it as it stands.

If you can't understand it, perhaps you shouldn't have posted such a ludicrous comment in the first place.

 

[johnny2007]

It's not just about profiling, it's also about the approach to people who have been stopped.
Additionally, when it becomes so bad that the community starts to react against such profiling, the police ought to stop and think, "is our profiling reaping rewards or causing distrust?"




Details such as a local resident near the park entrance reporting youths drug dealing? That'll go down well with the informants!

I say it one last time.
Drop the dope or change dealer.
Read about neighbourhood watch and find out for yourself.
People don't need to give names as they can simply report to the co-ordinator, however in this case the complainant was the co-ordinator.
Not everyone is a coward scared to report drug dealing on their doorstep.
Perhaps if they'd reported in certain areas, now there won't be a gang problem related to drug territory.

 

[Brigadier]

If you can't understand it, perhaps you shouldn't have posted such a ludicrous comment in the first place.

If my quoting from the link you posted and you are defending is, in your mind, also "ludicrous comment" on my part, it is no wonder you haven't a clue what you are on about.


Perhaps you should heed your own words...

 

[gasbanni]

Did you notice how Dearie Dawn could hardly hide her delight at being stopped ?

If I'm stopped I'm polite and ask what the problem is .....they're doing their job, if your polite and reasonable my experiance is they are too.

Broad dual carriageway, fields both sides, me doing 60 in a 40..... blue lights and wah wah's on .........do you know what the speed limit is ...its so and so ....what were you doing ? ....I was going faster than that ...... why ....explained late for a meeting got told off and went on my way.

Don't break the speed limits now ........older and wiser.

Dawn butler loved it, being pulled over she should have said "Is it cos I'se black ?"
"No it's cos yourse a woke idiot !"

 

[EFLImpudence]

I did wonder how many times she has been stopped - did she say? - or has she been waiting years for this to happen?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Not forgetting that she wasn't stopped.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

If my quoting from the link you posted and you are defending is, in your mind, also "ludicrous comment" on my part, it is no wonder you haven't a clue what you are on about.

WTF are you on about now? Your sentence is so circular it's nonsense.
You quoted a link from my post, which I am defending? I'm not defending my comment, I'm elucidating on it because you've misunderstood the headline.
I'm explaining the article to you because you totally misunderstood it.

I didn't say my comment was ludicrous, I said your comment was ludicrous.

If you can't understand it, perhaps you shouldn't have posted such a ludicrous comment in the first place.

I was obviously referring to this one:

Fook me, you only have to read three or four paragraphs in to see the bias / misrepresentation in the headline.

You're completely befuddled. The headline wasn't biased, it wasn't misrepresenting, it was summarising the article. You just completely misunderstood it, and made a ludicrous comment.
Stop blustering, Brigadier. Admit you're befuddled and don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Do you want to start again? I'm more than happy to go over it again for you. I am able to explain things slowly and precisely for those who find comprehension of simple things difficult.

 

[johnny2007]

I'm more than happy to go over it again for you. I am able to explain things slowly and precisely for those who find comprehension of simple things difficult.

Must be a communist.
I'm better than you because I talk so much shyte that nobody can understand.