Does this seem expensive?

[al4567]

I think we're on the verge of being ripped by Ikea's kitchen fitters?

1920's house with old fuse box with wire fuses etc.
Gas oven being replaced with electric oven, so it needs a radial main for the cooker and hob.

"Install radial main for the cooker hob" is £192, it's 10 feet from the Fusebox!

"Supply and install new add-on board for existing fuseboard" is £550!

"Supply 10m earthing cable for equipotential crossbonding" is £44! Seems to be about £15 elsewhere?

Alex.

 

[electronicsuk]

Doesn't seem too excessive given the labour and testing involved is not insignificant. The cost of the PEB conductor may seem high, but there's a good chance they are applying a markup on materials to cover their labour costs. If you were to supply the materials yourself, you'd likely find another £30+ added onto the quote elsewhere to make up for it.

That said, quite what 'equipotential crossbonding' is I'm not sure...

 

[al4567]

"That said, quite what 'equipotential crossbonding' is I'm not sure..."

It appears to be a posh and confusing(to the layman) term for cross earthing everything metal!

I'm suspicious as they appear to be charging £192 for about ten feet of cable, and then another £82 for screwing the cooker box to the wall!

It's not a big or extensive kitchen at all! There are under £3000 worth of units in all, the installation is £1750 which I don't think is unreasonable, but the additional works add another £3550 on top! It makes a small kitchen up to £8300!

 

[STI]

So are they installing a new RCD protected "box" for the £550. Also question if they have made a mistake and whether the 190 for the cooker radial is already included in the 550 for the "box". Is it 6mm cable or even 10mm that they are having to install. Is 10 feet as the cable runs or is it as the preverbial crow flies. If everything in your kitchen is protected by the RCD then the supplementary bonding isnt required.

550 to add a new RCD box for the cooker and run the radial doesnt seem expensive, 550 + 190 seems a little OTT but without seeing the site its difficult to say one way or another.

 

[londonboy]

They have seen the job, we have not. How can we tell if its expensive or not

Your adamant your being ripped off so why not get more quotes

 

[Steve]

the installation is £1750 which I don't think is unreasonable!

I think it is. Considering I could do it myself.

 

[AndyPRK]

It's expensive if they are just going to fit a small additional CU just to power the cooker.

 

[crunchynut]

Well done Steve for highlighting the £1750 install charge.. Alex seems to think that this is OK, but a humble spark should not earn equivalent. Not having a go Alex, just pointing something out..

Alex, you say it is a small kitchen. How small? £3000 for units/appliances alone is quite a high figure in a small kitchen. £550 is possibly high (without looking) for a sub-board. As Londonboy says get other quotes.

Although I would like to earn more whilst fitting kitchens and carrying out electrical works, I think the figures you say are a lil excessive. Maybe next time you should get a word-of-mouth recommendation for a self-employed type that could carry out the works...and likey to a better standard in every way than the time pressured multi-national fitters of Ikea and their ilk. Just a thought..

Hope the kitchen is lovely for you though.

 

[RF Lighting]

I'm suspicious as they appear to be charging £192 for about ten feet of cable

And a 45A DP isolator switch, and a cooker outlet plate, and a twin flush box for the isolator and a single flush box for the outlet plate, and capping, grommets, earth sleeving, screws, plugs, etc.

Oh and all the chopping out, and the making good and the plaster to make good with and maybe some trunking in the cellar........

 

[1john]

and a ten foot run could end up using 30ft of cable by time you go around the house! Remeber that there is no service void behind Ikea base units, absolute nightmare to install, especially if the walls are not plumb. I wouldn't fit one again unless I could batten and board all of the walls beforehand!

 

[electronicsuk]

If everything in your kitchen is protected by the RCD then the supplementary bonding isnt required.

Even if it wasn't/isn't RCD protected, I can't imagine supplementary bonding being required in the kitchen. Some plumbers seem to do it with boilers, but it seems quite pointless to me. Apparently it's a part of their regs.

 

[Lectrician]

There is no need at all for supplementary equipotential bonding in the kitchen.

The bonding they refer to is bound to be for main protective equipotential bonding to the gas and water service. (where they enter the building).

 

[STI]

There is no need at all for supplementary equipotential bonding in the kitchen.

The bonding they refer to is bound to be for main protective equipotential bonding to the gas and water service. (where they enter the building).

Isnt that that there already its a refurb not a new build

 

[pjcomp]

I would have said the numbers look on the high side, but not unusually so if you've got a big company handling th einstall. Remember you're not just paying for the work, you're paying for two or three layers of sub-contracting, wirth everyone taking their mark-up, plus office overheads. A one-man-and-his-dog sparks would probably be a lot cheaper because he's not got all the ancillary costs to pass on.

PJ

 

[thomo27]

I would have said the numbers look on the high side, but not unusually so if you've got a big company handling th einstall. Remember you're not just paying for the work, you're paying for two or three layers of sub-contracting, wirth everyone taking their mark-up, plus office overheads. A one-man-and-his-dog sparks would probably be a lot cheaper because he's not got all the ancillary costs to pass on.

PJ

As above... Id get another quote even 2