EU PPE procurement scheme

[fillyboy]

Why didnt we join the EU procurement effort to secure PPE equipment ?
Well they marshalled their resources and buying power to procure all they need.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_523

The joint procurement of personal protective equipment launched by the European Commission to address the coronavirus crisis has proven successful.

Read more: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/...of-protective-kit.541501/page-6#ixzz6L6fmk3kL


I'm intrigued, if this scheme has proven successful, why are Doctors in Germany and France 'demonstrating' about the lack of PPE equipment.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/german-doctors-pose-naked-in-protest-at-ppe-shortages

 

[IT Minion]

They might be struggling as much as us, or more, or less but still being short. It seems to be GPs and care homes that are short there, which we're also doing badly on. No mention of hospitals running out but that doesn't prove anything.

Even if it is underperforming, how much worse or better is it underperforming than our attempts? Would we have been able to get more if we'd joined that scheme as well as pursuing our own attempts?

 

[fillyboy]

They might be struggling as much as us, or more, or less but still being short. It seems to be GPs and care homes that are short there, which we're also doing badly on. No mention of hospitals running out but that doesn't prove anything.

Even if it is underperforming, how much worse or better is it underperforming than our attempts? Would we have been able to get more if we'd joined that scheme as well as pursuing our own attempts?

It simply highlights that this is a global problem (possibly excepting the far east) rather than being caused by a political party, I thought a few people needed a reminder of that.

 

[fillyboy]

It's the last time I google 'naked germans' though.

 

[HERTS P&D]

 

[IT Minion]

It simply highlights that this is a global problem (possibly excepting the far east) rather than being caused by a political party, I thought a few people needed a reminder of that.

Perhaps, there was an interesting article on the global mask manufacturing process. Be warned it is on the guardian so reading it may result in you voting labour. It's also quite long.

 

[Notch7]

rather than being caused by a political party, I thought a few people needed a reminder of that.

Tories sat on their arrises for weeks allowing Cummings to convince them herd immunity was the solution, when they couldve got some PPE and done some contact tracing
oh and those countries that acted fast and instantly locked down: already coming out of lockdown
I thought a few Tory supporters needed a reminder of the facts

 

[fillyboy]

Perhaps, there was an interesting article on the global mask manufacturing process. Be warned it is on the guardian so reading it may result in you voting labour. It's also quite long.

You're right, it was long, certainly an eye opener though.

 

[fillyboy]

Tories sat on their arrises for weeks allowing Cummings to convince them herd immunity was the solution, when they couldve got some PPE and done some contact tracing
oh and those countries that acted fast and instantly locked down: already coming out of lockdown
I thought a few Tory supporters needed a reminder of the facts

Diversion.

 

[Brigadier]

Tories sat on their arrises for weeks

Lightweights ; you've done it (on here) for years

 

[Ryler]

Lightweights ; you've done it (on here) for years

 

[SirGalahad]

It simply highlights that this is a global problem (possibly excepting the far east) rather than being caused by a political party, I thought a few people needed a reminder of that.

Hahahahaha

The Germans are protesting because they are still not lowering the requirements like the UK - look at how PHE lowered the requirements and how many updates they have made.

Defending the indefensible.

1. 27 April 2020
   Added statement following NERVTAG review of cardiopulmonary resuscitation as an aerosol generating procedure, and added same statement into the PDF of the complete guidance.
   
   
2. 24 April 2020
   Added PDF version of the complete suite of guidance. Added clarification that chest compression is not an aerosol generating procedure to the PPE page.
   
   
3. 17 April 2020
   Added Considerations for acute personal protective equipment (PPE) shortages.
   
   
4. 12 April 2020
   Added a statement to clarify that the UK is currently experiencing sustained community transmission of COVID-19.
   
   
5. 10 April 2020
   Updated guidance, new Tables 1,3 and 4, and added links.
   
   
6. 7 April 2020
   Removed reference to ‘first responders’ in PPE table 3 and guidance.
   
   
7. 6 April 2020
   List of guidance updates now included in 'Explanation of the updates to infection prevention and control guidance'.
   
   
8. 5 April 2020
   Added Frequently Asked Questions on wearing Personal Protective Equipment (PPE).
   
   
9. 4 April 2020
   Added explanation of the updates to the infection prevention and control guidance.
   
   
10. 3 April 2020
    Updated 'A visual guide to safe PPE' poster.
    
    
11. 2 April 2020
    New tables describing PPE use across different clinical scenarios and settings; advice on sessional PPE use and reusable PPE; change in close-contact distance; advice on washing forearms if exposed; advice on acceptable respirators; general formatting to improve usability.
    
    
12. 27 March 2020
    Revised sections on aerosol generating procedures and theatres.
    
    
13. 23 March 2020
    Moved guidance for personal protective equipment (PPE) for aerosol generating procedures and for non-aerosol generating procedures to new, separate pages.
    
    
14. 21 March 2020
    Added new guidance for putting on and taking off personal protective equipment (PPE) for non-aerosol generating procedures.
    
    
15. 21 March 2020
    Added new guidance on when to use a face mask or FFP3 respirator.
    
    
16. 13 March 2020
    Added 'Infection prevention and control guidance for pandemic coronavirus'.
    
    
17. 6 March 2020
    Changes to PPE and mask and respiratory recommendations for different situations; incorporated existing advice on safe use of point-of-care tests including blood gas machines and updated advice on IPC in operating theatres.
    
    
18. 3 March 2020
    Added quick guides and videos for donning and doffing of personal protective equipment (PPE).
    
    
19. 19 February 2020
    Added posters for donning and doffing Personal Protective Equipment (PPE).
    
    
20. 14 February 2020
    Revised guidance.
    
    
21. 3 February 2020
    Updated section on 'Waste' with new information.
    
    
22. 31 January 2020
    Updated waste categorisation and terminology for novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
    
    
23. 15 January 2020
    Updated document with new edition.
    
    
24. 10 January 2020
    First published.
    

 

[fillyboy]

Hahahahaha

The Germans are protesting because they are still not lowering the requirements like the UK - look at how PHE lowered the requirements and how many updates they have made.

Defending the indefensible.

You really need to see a doctor mate, honestly, go now before it's too late.

 

[IT Minion]

You really need to see a doctor mate, honestly, go now before it's too late.

Are they running out of PPE?

 

[Notch7]

Diversion.

Wrong
it is entirely to the point

you said this is a 'global pandemic, not the govts fault', I said (quite correctly) it was the govts fault, they were too slow and made wrong decisions.