Holy Smoke

[JohnD]

... You want to see them on supermarket shelves, you want everyone to have access to recreational drugs, you want drug dealers to sell them in the streets a bit like the charley dealers across Europe. You would turn our country into a nation of drug addicts and advertise to the world to come over here and access any drug that you want legally. ....

This is of course the reverse of the truth.

 

[JohnD]

The problem with legalising cannabis is where the usage goes after that. Does it make those who use it try harder drugs?

You mean, if you push people into using illegal substances bought on an uncontrolled market, do they become part of an uncontrolled market whose profits go to organised crime? Yes, that was one of the problems of Prohibition in America. Gangsters like Al Capone did very well out of it.

Organised crime does not make big profits out of selling aspirin, paracetamol or chocolate because they are readily and cheaply available legally.

If the legal market was closed down, illegal trade would arise.

 

[pete01]

Its just about money, the government want the profit they dont give a shyza about the end users.

 

[JohnD]

Its just about money, the government want the profit they dont give a shyza about the end users.

The taxpayer picks up the bill for prisons and clinics. Illegal trade pays no tax.

Nobody gains from the illegal drug trade except organised crime.

 

[SPLINE]

Of course you are talking nonsense and using the excuse of legalising recreational drugs for your own benefit rather than for the benefit of those that don't use them.

Correct. If it were legalised the medical "benefits" would instantly be forgotten.

The problem with legalising cannabis is where the usage goes after that. Does it make those who use it try harder drugs?

Yes.

 

[Highway Man]

This is of course the reverse of the truth.

How is it the reverse of the truth, if you legalise recreational drugs over here we would turn into a worse place than Amsterdam. You would get every wafe and stray here coming for the legalised drug trade. Only advantage to the government would be a taxable revenue.
Supermarkets could offer BOGOF deals, buy a couple of grams of coke and get a few ecstasy tablets completely free, or perhaps a pick n mix with various drugs, I fail to see how you think this would be good for the country. Thank god for people like me who would be against such a silly move.

 

[Dec27]

Lol

You both post with the same lack of enthusiasm. It’s just a thought. No disrespect meant.

 

[MNW67]

You both post with the same lack of enthusiasm. It’s just a thought. No disrespect meant.

It takes years of dedication and training to write like this

Funnily enough, in person, I am actually very animated.

 

[blup]

You both post with the same lack of enthusiasm. It’s just a thought. No disrespect meant.

I can’t be bothered to respond to that

 

[Highway Man]

You mean, if you push people into using illegal substances bought on an uncontrolled market,

Who is pushing them into doing that?

 

[morqthana]

You have no right to ask that question, cannabis is a crime.

Of course I have the right to ask. I wasn't disputing the legal status of cannabis, but you said

I want the authorities, that I pay for, to protect me from criminals.

so it's quite in order for me to ask you in what way you need "protecting" from people who smoke cannabis?

 

[morqthana]

You are very much mistaken and obviously oblivious to the effects of recreational drugs and crime that is associated with the dealing and using of the substances.

If you make dealing a criminal act then users inevitably become involved with criminal dealings, becoming participants in criminal transactions with the sort of people who might well have other products they wish to sell, and who will use the money they make to fund other criminal activities. If you're concerned about cannabis being a "gateway drug" then surely they're the last people you'd want cannabis buyers to get to know?

You want to see them on supermarket shelves, you want everyone to have access to recreational drugs, you want drug dealers to sell them in the streets a bit like the charley dealers across Europe.

Ah - like the way that alcohol and tobacco are sold on UK streets already, by people keen to sell other products as well.

OK.

You would turn our country into a nation of drug addicts and advertise to the world to come over here and access any drug that you want legally. Of course you are talking nonsense and using the excuse of legalising recreational drugs for your own benefit rather than for the benefit of those that don't use them.

Of course you are talking nonsense.

 

[morqthana]

has there been any studies done on this, personally I am not against cannabis smoking if that is what anyone wants to do even though I don't do it myself doesn't mean that I am biased towards it in any way, I genuinely believe that legalising it could well mean more people trying it as it is easy to get hold of and then comes the harder drugs after it.

So on what basis do you think we should decide which drugs should be illegal, and which not?

 

[Highway Man]

So on what basis do you think we should decide which drugs should be illegal, and which not?

None of them should be and why should they be/?

 

[morqthana]

Supermarkets could offer BOGOF deals, buy a couple of grams of coke and get a few ecstasy tablets completely free, or perhaps a pick n mix with various drugs,

Ah - like the way they currently do with alcohol and tobacco.

OK.

I fail to see how you think this would be good for the country.

I fail to see how you're thinking about evidence-led policies.

Thank god for people like me who would be against such a silly move.

You mean people who think that public health policies should be based on prejudiced beliefs and not knowing anything.

OK.