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Is this fusebox illegal

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by Psmk222, 2 Dec 2019 at 8:46 PM.

  1. Psmk222

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    I know access is tight but it is accessible .
     

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    Not illegal, but it's in a ridiculous location, it's at least 40 years old and some of the wiring inside appears to have cotton braid over it, which makes that at least 60 years old.

    Life expired, should have been replaced decades ago, and not suitable for continued use.
     
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    what do you mean by "illegal?"

    Perished rubber cable insulation is not "safe"

    Is the CU inside that cupboard you show? Where?
     
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    Was told by a spark that its illegal due to hard access ...the unit is inside the small cupboard...and consists of old wire fuses
     
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    What law did he tell you it breaks?

    Is this a rented home or an HMO?

    Where is the CU?
     
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    I was looking for someone to wire up my whirlpool bath and phoned the guy up...he asked for some photos to give him an idea but says the bath needs an rcd connection and that the meter is illegal as its impossible to replace.....i do have a separate meter in the garage thst is jumped off this meter....it was used for outside sockets....it does contain an rcd so could the bath be wire through this or can it be ran off the old meter with an rcd spur box
     
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    I reckon 90% of the wire in the house is braided with the exception of the oven and hob
     
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    It does, and so does virtually everything else in a domestic property now.

    While it's not breaking any laws as it is, no one with any sense or credibility would ever consider adding anything to that installation.
    That fusebox is pretty much inaccessible, and it won't be possible to connect anything else to it.
    If you really must have this bath connected, then the only option is to have a new consumer unit installed just for that, and at the same time install the required earthing and bonding which almost certainly won't be there.
    The new consumer unit will need to be connected at the origin where the meter is, and most certainly NOT attached via that fusebox or any other that may exist there.

    The reality is that the property needed to be rewired several decades ago.
     
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    Hi ... thanks for the reply ..yes i really do need the bath wired so looks like a consumer unit just for that is probably my only option unless of course someone can replace mine where it is....i can knock the cupboard away to make it more accessible but ill find out what the guy has to say and maybe get another couple of guys out as well....i want it to be safe ...... thanks for your time
     
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    No point moving or replacing the consumer unit unless you are going to rewire that old braided stuff.

    Long overdue for replacement.
     
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    Do you reckon i should just get a new unit specifically for the bath as per flameports advice....if this is a good idea and safer id rather go down this route.....i think we are way to late to rewire....we moved here 5 years ago and put in New ceillings and replastered every wall.....the home report we got and solicitors at the time told us the electrics were fine even though we queried the fusebox as we had replaced the one in our old house prior to selling
     
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    It's probably not safe, so I don't think anyone will credibly advise you that it's OK.
     
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    Even though it was a long timimplie, those electrics will not have been any more 'fine' 5 years ago than they are today! Although we can't tell from afar, it quite possibly dangerous.

    Kind Regards, John
     
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    It should have been rewired 50 years ago.

    Presumably that wiring goes all over the house.

    If you was to bend that cable, the insulation inside would crack and drop off.

    This type of wiring is sometimes installed in metal tube, which makes rewiring in walls easy(ish).

    However, it can also be found inside wooden trunking, though usually under floorboards.
     
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    Yip there's loads of metal tubes in these wall unfortunately the floors are all New as well....not chuffed at all lol
     
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