Justified?

[Roy Bloom]

It's certainly possible Netanyahu will be challenged for leadership of Likud when the dust and debris finally settles over Gaza, but Filly B. has pointed out that Benny Gantz taking control might not be for the best. There are no good options that i can see at this moment.

An election could well swiing the government away from the far right wing poitics.

Israel’s parliament has sworn in Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister, inaugurating the country’s most far-right, religiously conservative government in history.
this has been in the making for almost two months and is “quite a victory for Benjamin Netanyahu”, who partnered up with a coalition that includes “a mix of an ultra-Orthodox and right-wing bloc”.

The coalition, Khairat said, includes some of the most “right-wing politicians we’ve seen”. “They were on the fringes of politics and now here they are on the main stage.”

“Even though locals we’ve spoken to have said that yes, the process is democratic, they are very deeply concerned about the laws that have been put through,” she said from outside the parliament, where left-wing Israelis had gathered to protest.

Benjamin Netanyahu returns as PM of Israel’s most far-right gov’t

The new government seeks to expand illegal settlements in occupied West Bank and pursue other anti-Palestinian policies.

www.aljazeera.com

Although the current government is dominated ny Zionists.

List of political parties in Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Odds]

Not while Hamas has a hole in their arse will a left-wing govt. stand a chance of election victory.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Not while Hamas has a hole in their arse will a left-wing govt. stand a chance of election victory.

The next election is in 2026.
That's plenty of time for recriminations.

 

[fillyboy]

Netanyahu wants the war to continue as long as possible.

Netahyahu's pursuit of Zionist desires might yet prove to be Israel's downfall.

The war will continue as long as Biden allows it to, which won't be much longer. Biden knows that Hamas must be destroyed, apparently most Arab regimes want to see Hamas destroyed, they just can't say it out loud.

Support for Hamas comprises of Iran, Syria (read Iran) and Qatar.

Biden will be talking to the other Arab countries about what comes next, if Netanyahu stays, a lot of sensible people will be pulling his strings.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The war will continue as long as Biden allows it to, which won't be much longer. Biden knows that Hamas must be destroyed, apparently most Arab regimes want to see Hamas destroyed, they just can't say it out loud.

Support for Hamas comprises of Iran, Syria (read Iran) and Qatar.

Biden will be talking to the other Arab countries about what comes next, if Netanyahu stays, a lot of sensible people will be pulling his strings.

Someone else might be yanking ('scuse the pun) Biden's chain.

Improbably as this evolution sounds — that Turkey could coalesce Arab states into a war against Israel
Netanyahu wants — no, needs — a war to continue.
Erdogan could also benefit personally from a conflict with Israel. It would unify an enthusiastic population behind him, and in the broadest application could result in his leadership of an alliance of all the Arab countries against Israel.
And here is the kicker: Erdogan does not even have to do much fighting to win — if he just starts shooting he could ensure that Biden is defeated (defeated-by-dismay) in 2024.
If Biden were not re-elected it would on the surface seem to do Turkey no good. It would mean (potentially) that Trump became president instead, with his pro-Israel views.

Turkey, Israel and a Middle-East Firestorm

How personal agendas could expand the conflict into a regional war

barrygander.substack.com

If Netanyahu is wise, he'll stop the war sooner rather than later,
But he knows he must deliver something to Israel, but his Zionism might overirde his realism.

For Netanyahu — regardless of how much he needs a conflict — it is only a matter of time before he walks off the cliff and his own people lock him up.

Turkey, Israel and a Middle-East Firestorm

How personal agendas could expand the conflict into a regional war

barrygander.substack.com

 

[IT Minion]

Biden knows that Hamas must be destroyed, apparently most Arab regimes want to see Hamas destroyed, they just can't say it out loud.

You cant bomb a terrorist organisation out of existence. You can't shell a captive population into liking you.

This won't solve anything, except that Israel will be a bit further on in their slow ethnic cleansing program.

 

[fillyboy]

Someone else might be yanking ('scuse the pun) Biden's chain.

Turkey, Israel and a Middle-East Firestorm

How personal agendas could expand the conflict into a regional war

barrygander.substack.com

If Netanyahu is wise, he'll stop the war sooner rather than later,
But he knows he must deliver something to Israel, but his Zionism might overirde his realism.

Turkey, Israel and a Middle-East Firestorm

How personal agendas could expand the conflict into a regional war

barrygander.substack.com

Nah, the Turks are p155ed off, and do hold some sway, but no way will they start a full on war, too much to lose. Same can be said for Saudi, Jordan, Egypt et al.

 

[fillyboy]

You cant bomb a terrorist organisation out of existence. You can't shell a captive population into liking you.

This won't solve anything, except that Israel will be a bit further on in their slow ethnic cleansing program.

Ethnic cleansing programme, LOL. You need to stop listening to the kids on marches

You cant bomb a terrorist organisation out of existence

Yes you can, but if you really can't, then we're all *****d.

 

[IT Minion]

Yes you can, but if you really can't, then we're all *****d.

Since it has never been done before I'm sticking with my answer.

We didn't beat the IRA by shelling Catholic areas, the IRA is nearly completely gone because the cause for terrorism was reduced so they lost popular support and fresh recruits.

Terrorist groups die because they're full of fanatics and if you take away even part of their justification they implode in factional internal warfare.

 

[Odds]

Since it has never been done before I'm sticking with my answer.

We didn't beat the IRA by shelling Catholic areas, the IRA is nearly completely gone because the cause for terrorism was reduced so they lost popular support and fresh recruits.

Terrorist groups die because they're full of fanatics and if you take away even part of their justification they implode in factional internal warfare.

Where there is conflict and disaster, the Quaker response is through a stance of non-partisanship. This stems from the Quaker recognition that “there is that of God in everyone” and that you cannot privilege one set of lives over another. During the Irish famine, the significant Quaker relief efforts were directed impartially to both Catholics and Protestants. In part because of this, Quakers were able to play a mediating role in the Northern Ireland “Troubles” that ultimately bore fruit in the Good Friday agreement.

Similarly, in the widespread devastation in Europe at the end of the first world war, and the acute and desperate issue of seriously malnourished children, the welfare arm of American Quakers was involved in a mass feeding program that provided food to over one million German children each day and gained the German name of Quäkerspeisung (Quaker feeding). A legacy of this was that, after Kristallnacht in 1939, British Quakers were able to organise the Kindertransport that allowed the passage of nearly 10,000 Jewish children to safety in the United Kingdom.

The Garundia.com

Maybe we should send a delegation of Quakers into Gaza?

 

[noseall]

Yes you can,

Give an example?

 

[Odds]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is due to face the resumption of his long-running trial on numerous corruption charges, after a pause due to the war in Gaza. A court in Jerusalem is set to start hearing the case, which is focused on several corruption charges against Netanyahu, on Monday, according to reports in the Israeli media. The trial was paused on an emergency order from the country’s justice minister following Hamas’s attack on Israel on October 7.

Allahu Akhbat@AlJazzeera

Justified?
Hellz Yeah!

The horrific murders of Israeli civilians by Hamas cannot in any way legitimise Israel’s ongoing war crimes. Genocide is not self-defence, nor is it in any way a proportionate response. It also cannot be ignored that this comes within the broader context of Palestinians having lived under suffocating oppression for decades, in what Amnesty International has defined as an apartheid regime.

Demanding an end to this inexcusable violence is a question of basic humanity, and we call on everyone who can to do so. Silence is complicity. You cannot be neutral in an unfolding genocide.

Greta [email protected]

 

[noseall]

Yes you can,

Give an example - please?

You can certainly bomb a terrorist organisation into existence.

 

[fillyboy]

Give an example - please?

You can certainly bomb a terrorist organisation into existence.

Isis, briefly. 98% of the areas they held re-taken, 10,000 held in prisons. They do still exist and there might be a resurgence, in which case we'll need to bomb them some more.

What's your solution?, should the world lay down it's arms and submit to the the worlds terrorist organisations in the childish belief they'll lead the world to a better way of life?

 

[Odds]

Even Arab nations wanted rid of (so called) ISIS - got any other examples, old boy?