Off duty police officer sacked

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Here we go again! Lets raise the Race Card yet again!!! As Softus has tried to point out to you, if the rules say he cannot join the bl**dy Tufty Club and he joins and is caught wearing the badge...
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then he's gonna get sacked. Live with it. Its the rules. He signed up to them. If he hasn't the intelligence to read his Terms and Conditions then that's his problem. If he doesn't like the rules... Tough!
 
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it doesnt matter if he was off duty. As part of the rules governing his employment there are certain rules that heavily intrude into his private life. one of those is governing political affiliations. It goes with the job.

i wasnt allowed to sign partitions etc when i was in the job. there were a lot of intrusions into the off duty life.
 
i think you are missing my point.

I agree, as he signed up, he knew the rules, didnt adhere, so got fired, and quite right. Rules are rules.

But, my point is, why is this a rule? Why should the police have the right to force someone to behave differently in their own private lives, partiuarly when the activity is legal?

Its akin to saying, 'ok, you may be gay, but your not to act on those beliefs when your not working, as it may make the police seem to be pro-gay, and upset those people who hate gays.

That would never be allowed, and quite rightly, as I said, what one does in their private lifes, i really could not care, police or otherwise, but to ban a large number of people supporting a LEGAL political party is wrong. I dont even vote BNP, but even I realise this is wrong. How dare an employer be able to demand what one does in their free, personal lifes. I cant imagine this standing up in any court, must be a breach of human rights.
 
no im not missing the point. i suppose its from the view point of being impartial. I used to police the fox hunts. I couldnt be there one week off duty protesting against it and then be there policing it the next week, possibly arresting a protestor. The police service is not a normal employer, nor is the armed services. The rules are quite clear when you sign up to it, and you therefore have to take them on board before you sign on. Another example is a second job. only in certain circumstances can a police officer take on a second part time job, despite the fact he may be able to do it quite easily on his days off, as a fireman can. That means a possible second income is denied to him.
 
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A fireman is a part time job spent sleeping. Their real job is painter and decorator.
 
I do not support any of the BNP's views,

Sweeping statements like that tend to get me wondering do the authors know what the BNP policies are. Is it not the case that the hatchet job done on the BNP is too sustain the LibLabContrick thats been in place over the last thirty years and as can be witnessed of the recent financial crisis unravelling, their con trick is not the best policy perhaps to adhere too.
Heres a list of BNP policies, theres nothing you`d support in there?

BNP Policies
February 28, 2008 by News Team

IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

EUROPE - back to British independence!

We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.

LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!

The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

ECONOMY - British workers first!

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes

EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!

We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.

AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!

We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain’s farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation’s need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain’s once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.

HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!

We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.

TRANSPORT - time to invest!

Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.

ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!

Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. “The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.

FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.

PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!

The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.

NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

DEFENCE - no more cuts!

Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain’s interests first!

Britain’s foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations’ internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.

DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!

The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level.

Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.

Like any political party their policies on the surface are there to appeal, its just when they get into power the administration turns out to be somewhat different.

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Basically we have no freedom of speech any more.Was it the rule when he joined, he may have 20 years service and this may have recently been brought out. If so is it right that hes has been sacrificed to political correctness. Why is it all right to be a card carrying member of the communist party and be a police officer but not a member of the BNP? Why is there a black police officers association, surely this is racist. White police officers are denied membership by virtue of their skin colour isn't this racism or does it only work white on black. If the police were allowed to get on with their primary job which is to prevent and detect crime instead of wasting time effort and money on this b*llocks what a happier world it would be.
 
It should be remembered that the Nazi party started out as a fringe party which was ridiculed as a joke, they ended up taking power in a democratic election.
OK, having "remembered" that, I don't see the relevance of it.

As they say "when the pot boils the scum rises to the top"with the current economic turmoil rising unemployment and mass immigration all the ingredients are there
Er, no.

We don't have hyperinflation; we don't have massive unemployment of middle-class people; we don't have united national resentment of the Versailles Treaty; we don't have financial instability**.

What we do have is a berk in a suit who has a reasonable vocabulary but no credibility. Oh, and the price of fuel has risen a lickle bit.

it could just take one spark and set of events could unfold which would be unstoppable.
Unstoppable. Hm.

What the BNP lack is an intellectual cadre and the support of the middle classes
Well, that's that successfully stopped then.

Closer to home look at the irish party known as "Sinn Fein"which like The BNP was an extreme nationalist party mostly working class and bigoted without much support at the ballot box, they then embarked on a campaign in which they recruited university educated activists to articulate their ideaology and organise their propaganda. As a result they took power in Ulster and at one point came close to taking power in the Irish Republic.
You're right.

Back in 1978, I came very close to sharing a night of unbridled passion with Raquel Welch. Sadly, we never actually met, and she continues to regret her missed opportunity.

I wonder what happened to the police officers at the Met who allowed "VOTE LABOUR"posters to be carried on police vehicles some years ago.
Well, nothing happened, so wonder no more.

There's no reason that anything should have happened, because such posters didn't affect the credibility and authority of the police. If you think that police officers should be allowed to join any party of their choosing, take a moment to imagine the effect of them all choosing to join the Monster Raving Loony Party.

Basically we have no freedom of speech any more.
I'm gonna have you arrested for saying that. :evil:
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**And before someone says "Oh yes we DO have financial instability!", what we actually have is merely some people who work in the financial sector who stand to lose a lot of money. The shame of it.
 
I do not support any of the BNP's views,
Sweeping statements like that tend to get me wondering do the authors know what the BNP policies are.
Well, I don't agree with any of the ones you've publicised herein, viz:

gant wrote that The BNP said:
we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.
I disagree.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union.
I don't want that.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
I don't want that.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports.
I don't want that.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work...
This is just pie in the sky.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world.
I don't want that.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
Britain’s farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation’s need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain’s once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.
I heard a rumour that the BNP will be breeding flying pigs in order to implement this strategy.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
This looks like a translation from a 1933 National Socialist German Workers’ Party manifesto. :rolleyes:

gant wrote that The BNP said:
Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned.
I disagree.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
“The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
They very nearly had me with this one, but just have a go at defining the word "brutalist". :rolleyes:

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid.
I don't.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace.
Forced? FORCED?! :eek:

gant wrote that The BNP said:
Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago.
Now this one is really interesting. Didn't someone imply earlier that the BNP is just an English corollary to the PIRA? ;)

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We will boost Britain’s armed forces...
Nope - they lost me at "boost".

gant wrote that The BNP said:
Britain’s foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations’ internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.
I might agree with this if I had a clue what they were trying to do.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
...in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best.
Phew. Lucky the BNP doesn't consider its members to be any kind of elite.

gant wrote that The BNP said:
We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.
I keep seeing hordes of people whom I wouldn't want to have "real democratic power over their own lives".

Reading the empty promises of those crazed fascists hasn't endeared me to them, and I'm more certain than ever that I disagree with everything they stand for.
 
Reading the empty promises of those crazed fascists hasn't endeared me to them, and I'm more certain than ever that I disagree with everything they stand for.

Reading the above it seems you were n`t up to date on their policies, which was my original point in that because of discrimination against them their policies are unable to see the light of day via the media. If they were able to debate on an equal footing then hatchet jobs like yours would debunk them, would n`t they.?
By allowing them to operate as they do presently they seem to be gaining strength.
 
Reading the above it seems you were n`t up to date on their policies, which was my original point in that because of discrimination against them their policies are unable to see the light of day via the media.
If you'd been standing, as I was, on the streetside in Leeds city centre, on the day that Nick Griffin appeared in court, and seen his cronies touring around in a clapped out estate car with bunting akimbo and hand-written billboards alongside, like some pale imitation of a Wacky Races banger, except even 'wackier', and listened, as I did, to the ridiculous and desperate propoganda spewing distortedly from the megaphone on its top, then you might feel equally entitled to reflect on their views without having to read the tedious claptrap that they've written down and then pored over for hours in order to correct the spelling.

If they were able to debate on an equal footing then hatchet jobs like yours would debunk them, would n`t they.?
By allowing them to operate as they do presently they seem to be gaining strength.
Frankly, I think you're just as blinkered and pathetic as they are. You should consider joining them.
 
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