but still can - isn't that the point?
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so, we are having vaccine passports to protect the UNvaccinated.
I will admit I had missed that.
Are you being serious?
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so, we are having vaccine passports to protect the UNvaccinated.
I will admit I had missed that.
Are you being serious?
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Perhaps it's to expose and isolate them. If we could then get them all in one place - like a small island off the coast of the Orkneys, perhaps? I think it's a great idea. Children could point at them.
That is always the case.
you wouldn’t need passports to protect the vaccinated, would you?
after the word "transmission" do you see the words "at all?"
Because they aren't there.
Do you imagine that vaccination does not prevent transmission at all?
Or are you seriously whingeing because it not 100% prevented?
What do you know about the so-called "Swiss Cheese" concept of infection control?
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perfection is the enemy of good.
you are basically setting up a non sequitur.
you are making the argument that if the vaccine does not 100% stop transmission then there is zero benefit in restricting unvaccinated from mingling in social settings with other unvaccinated or vaccinated people.
But it’s not true, there is still a benefit.
Whether there is a benefit that is sufficient for it to be acceptable to impose such restrictions is a different argument.
you are conflating those 2 points.
Id not heard of that, just looked it up, it makes logical sense.
and a good reason to support mask wearing.
No.
Obviously because they would make no difference to the meaning of -
"what they [the vaccines] can't do anymore is prevent transmission"
and/or the author isn't Irish.
If you think it is factually incorrect perhaps you should have said that instead of pretending it says something it doesn't.
If so, take it up with the CDC and put them right.
My imagination has nothing to do with it.
What a strange yet typical thing for you to say.
Irrelevant - it has no bearing on the English language.
“can’t stop transmission”
Does not mean
“allow 100% transmission”
“can’t stop transmission” is an unqualified statement, it doesn’t include a value
In a worst case scenario, if vaccinated people are just as likely to transmit the virus……..
if all restrictions are lifted, that means unvaccinated people are more likely than ever to get Covid and potentially get ill
if all restrictions are lifted, that means unvaccinated people are more likely than ever to get Covid and potentially get ill
One of the SAGE advisors was saying that herd immunity isn't possible. Which seems to be true.
With herd immunity someone who hasn't been vaccinated is protected because there aren't enough viable carriers for an infection to spread far enough for them to get it. Measles for example.
With the Delta variant the vaccines aren't able to block infection enough to give that level of protection for unvaccinated people. They're really good at protecting individuals, but not achieve herd immunity.
Which is bad news for the antivaxers.
because the argument “vaccine passports are pointless” rather depends, where on the scale transmissibility lies.
"what they [the vaccines] can't do anymore is prevent transmission"
If you don't agree with the CDC, fair enough - but what does it say?
Do you interpret the CDC wording as “vaccinations do not reduce transmission at all”
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