Why is there no plan?

[ellal]

They are talking about this on BBC breakfast right now. An expert on this says there are a whole raft of considerations to be put in place before taking on such a commitment that could be for 12 months or more - just as I was saying. It's not like putting someone up temporarily for a couple of nights. They are also saying it can't just be a spur of the moment token gesture.

You're always looking for excuses to cop out of helping...

If you don't have the space then fair enough, but you haven't said that is the case for you...

It's apparently going to be a 6 month commitment, but the full details have been delayed as usual...

Linky

We'll hopefully soon see if it is just political posturing or hopefully not!

As for 'spur of the moment', then we are in an emergency situation and many will want to help...

Not all will be suitable, but it's better to make use of all available resources than leave people in refugee camps...

We have money, so they wouldn't be a burden on the state. And we'd rather give direct help as opposed to chuck dosh at a so-called charity where you have no idea of what they will do with it. Although the UK state should be helping out given the amount politicians/political parties have received through dirty money over the years!

But hey, as regards those 'considerations'...

Maybe you could request squeaky clean, house trained, DBS checked, polite refugees who would like a tipple at breakfast

 

[The Samaritan]

We won't be taking anyone in as it's just not us, just being very honest. However, unlike some, I'm not and never will stereotype these poor souls like some idiots and we are waiting to do the right thing when hopefully we get a couple of hundred from Ukraine seeking safety. Me and my OH have agreed to volunteer if required but most likely we will not give money but find out what is needed to support a family/s in the uk local to us to help these poor people by way of buying and providing what is needed for their daily life and it could be clothing/undergarments, food, mobile phone/top-ups, we shall see.

Everyone in England can do something constructive and does not necessarily have to home these poor souls. I hope it is over soon and they can all return to their homes and many will have their lives/homes destroyed and will need funds to rebuild but that is for another day.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

They are talking about this on BBC breakfast right now. An expert on this says there are a whole raft of considerations to be put in place before taking on such a commitment that could be for 12 months or more - just as I was saying. It's not like putting someone up temporarily for a couple of nights. They are also saying it can't just be a spur of the moment token gesture.

Which I suppose is why the Poles, Hungarians, Moldovans and Romanians have all closed their doors to Ukranians - no, wait, the OPENED their doors.

If you want some idea of the scale of the problem, more people have fled Ukraine to Europe on 2 weeks than fled Syria to Europe on 2 years

 

[Mottie]

Which I suppose is why the Poles, Hungarians, Moldovans and Romanians have all closed their doors to Ukranians - no, wait, the OPENED their doors.

They're on their doorstep and share a border. It's like us helping out the Welsh or the Scots in the first instance. Would the Welsh or the Scots be able to get to mainland Europe as easy? Would they be allowed?

 

[ellal]

They're on their doorstep and share a border. It's like us helping out the Welsh or the Scots in the first instance. Would the Welsh or the Scots be able to get to mainland Europe as easy? Would they be allowed?

2 million so far have entered some of the poorest nations in Europe, and yet the sixth richest country in the world has so far taken in a grand total of approximately 1000...

Quite frankly, totally pathetic!

It's best if all European nations share the load instead of people talking about doorsteps!

So much for Britain being 'freed from it's shackles' and 'leading the world'

As to 'would they be allowed?', are you referring to mainland Europe or UK exit border controls?

 

[Mottie]

2 million so far have entered some of the poorest nations in Europe, and yet the sixth richest country in the world

Make your mind up! Perhaps you should use that phrase more often instead of your usual one. Hey, maybe they've seen what you call the U.K. and thought they'd give us a swerve!

 

[Deleted member 174758]

They're on their doorstep and share a border. It's like us helping out the Welsh or the Scots in the first instance. Would the Welsh or the Scots be able to get to mainland Europe as easy? Would they be allowed?

Is it, though? We have a lot of Ukrainians who settled in this country over the last 20 or so years and have settled status. Do you think they should not have the right to assist their own families? You know, we took in a lot of Ukrainians at the end of WWII, people who would otherwise have been murdered by the Russiana had we repatriated them. Do you see any parallels, there?

 

[Mottie]

Do you think they should not have the right to assist their own families?

I thought that family members were the ONLY ones being allowed into the U.K. at the moment? Do you and Ellal know different?

 

[ellal]

I thought that family members were the ONLY ones being allowed into the U.K. at the moment? Do you and Ellal know different?

At present yes...

But if you were able to read the latest you would realise that individual and company sponsored Ukranians regardless of family connections will apparently be let in from next week...

So there goes your latest opt out excuse...

Will you now be lining up to help out with refugee accommodation now that your irrational fears will soon be soothed?

 

[Mottie]

At present yes...

But if you were able to read the latest you would realise that individual and company sponsored Ukranians regardless of family connections will apparently be let in from next week...

So there goes your latest opt out excuse...

Will you now be lining up to help out with refugee accommodation now that your irrational fears will soon be soothed?

I might see how you get on with yours first. Don't forget to let us all know how it goes.

 

[The Samaritan]

Some idiot on the radio today was banging on about if there was a war in Scotland/NI/Wales the EU would not readily accept them as the "Ukrainians
should go to one of the border countries in the first instance." or something like that. The host slapped down hard the idiot and reminded the fool that Ukraine is a completely independent country and NI/Wales and Scotland are not therefore Ukraine is completely different he said.

It's so sad to see the UK's education system in free fall when you hear people like the above.

IMO there are many racists about you can tell by what they say on the radio, tv, media and even forums and thankfully the Admin removes some posts.

TBH, I did not have a lot of time for the baltic states becuse they are not are integrated as much as England. However, when anyone/everyone is having to leave their home for their own safety, we all have to step up and not make lubricous jibes about these poor people. Let's hope this si soon over and they can return to their homes in peace.

 

[transam]

Some idiot on the radio today was banging on about if there was a war in Scotland/NI/Wales the EU would not readily accept them as the "Ukrainians
should go to one of the border countries in the first instance." or something like that. The host slapped down hard the idiot and reminded the fool that Ukraine is a completely independent country and NI/Wales and Scotland are not therefore Ukraine is completely different he said.

It's so sad to see the UK's education system in free fall when you hear people like the above.

IMO there are many racists about you can tell by what they say on the radio, tv, media and even forums and thankfully the Admin removes some posts.

TBH, I did not have a lot of time for the baltic states becuse they are not are integrated as much as England. However, when anyone/everyone is having to leave their home for their own safety, we all have to step up and not make lubricous jibes about these poor people. Let's hope this si soon over and they can return to their homes in peace.

Return to there homes

what homes

 

[The Samaritan]

Return to there homes

what homes

It's their homes and NOT "there" homes.
As stated in ne of my earlier posts, I've already stated that many will have
lost their homes and we, the world will need to aid them with that.
For the vast majority of people who have worked hard and often built/bought their own home in any country, once the danger is over they will want to return as often the country they seek shelter in has many racists

Read my post about housing refugees, and the way we propose to help these unfortunate people.

 

[Deleted member 292770]

Return to there homes

what homes

the Hummy idiocy continues.
‘in disbelief’ at the education system, yet can barely construct a legible rant that does not contain several grammatical errors and spelling mistakes. Laughable.

 

[fillyboy]

I thought that family members were the ONLY ones being allowed into the U.K. at the moment? Do you and Ellal know different?

Announcement from Gove expected Monday, looking for homes for refugees without family in the UK, potentially up to 100K.
The homes will need to be vetted, hopefully ellal will let us know how he gets on with his screening.