May Hammered Over Police Numbers

[daxu]

agree with transam.
Don't believe just adding police numbers will help at all. It is more about his community needs to do more. Apparently he was justifying terrorists, but didn't commit any real act for like 2 years. You can't really shot to kill him just because of his words.

The problem I see is the implementation of multiculturalism. As an immigrant myself, I do feel that some communities didn't even try to be integrated into British culture and these communities were allowed to do things in their own way and become further and further apart from the mainstream British culture. Unfortunately lots of their values are bit further behind, so there will definitely be conflicts.

Similar things in other western world. I lived in Sweden for like 6 months in Stockholm and the place I lived was a giant immigrant area(as it is much cheaper). In deed the Swedish police won't normally get into this area as even their presence will trigger problems. It is rather sad.

 

[transam]

What specifically do you want done? (Again a genuine question about how internment might work)

1st thing u do is stop any one who has been out in syria from coming back into the UK in fact they should have had to surrender there passport when they left

figures suggest that between 300 to 500 have returned . what were they doing out there any way .

charitable work ?

The other 3000 ?? being watched , send em out there & good riddance to bad rubbish

 

[Newboy]

sadly newboy does not wish to answer.

Now perhaps you'd have the courtesy to reply to my question

So if we had, for example, 20,000 more police officers (including 1350 firearms officers) would that stop a murdering lunatic or would it mean that the murdering lunatic would be stopped more quickly once they had started murdering?

 

[Roger928]

I lived in Sweden for like 6 months in Stockholm and the place I lived was a giant immigrant area(as it is much cheaper). In deed the Swedish police won't normally get into this area as even their presence will trigger problems. It is rather sad.

Yes.. no go areas.
Some of the naïve LWR brigade on here think they don't exist.
bless...

 

[blightymam]

Do you think that more police, while not necessarily able to stop an attack which can occur anywhere randomly, would be able to spend more time on intelligence gathering and following up more leads/tip-offs by concerned members of the public? Perhaps be able to stop a few of them happening in the first place.

 

[transam]

Then of course there is another issue ?? difficult as it may be ?

is a factor inbreeding ? that manchester bomber looked pugled to me ?

i.e they are not all there due to constant inbreeding ?

difficult question but one that should be asked none the less

 

[transam]

Do you think that more police, while not necessarily able to stop an attack which can occur anywhere randomly, would be able to spend more time on intelligence gathering and following up more leads/tip-offs by concerned members of the public? Perhaps be able to stop a few of them happening in the first place.

good point that .

how about arming all the police with firearms ?

 

[blightymam]

agree with transam.
Don't believe just adding police numbers will help at all. It is more about his community needs to do more. Apparently he was justifying terrorists, but didn't commit any real act for like 2 years. You can't really shot to kill him just because of his words.

I read somewhere this morning, may have been the BBC, that 2 people from his community had tipped off the police? Just nothing was followed up.

 

[transam]

I read somewhere this morning, may have been the BBC, that 2 people from his community had tipped off the police? Just nothing was followed up.

also one was slung out the local mosque for getting into an argument with the inman (allegedly)

 

[EFLImpudence]

Even puggled people don't usually go round blowing up themselves.

Perhaps there should be adverts on the telly telling people that Allah has declared suicide and murder a sin.

They could even show a copy of the advert receipt.

 

[JohnD]

Let me check your opinion on that.

If you halved police budgets and personnel, do you suppose that would make life easier for terrorists, or harder?

If you cut police by 20,000, of whom 1350 firearms officers, do you suppose that would make life easier for terrorists, or harder?

sadly newboy will not answer these two questions.

 

[noseall]

Yes.. no go areas.
Some of the naïve LWR brigade on here think they don't exist.
bless...

No such thing Rog.

 

[Doggit]

Interesting listening to an interveiw by a former Met police office (can't remember the rank) where he siad he'd been told by a current serviing officer he knew, that whilst it took 40 people to cover a known suspects movements etc, they didn't know when any of them would actually make a move.

But if you cut police numbers by 20,000, that doesn't mean that that's the number that gets removed from the surveylance squad; maybey only 200 and that's just 5 people not being watched. It's very easy to parrot simplistic critisisms, but the real world works differently. You are never going to stop fanatics becomings zealots, who then become martrys, but I don't think anyone should be allowed back in the country if they go of to fight somewhere else.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

Was it not a Labour government who led the UK into an unholy war in the Middle East provoking all what we see today ? Hmmmm I believe it was.

How odd that none of the usual have jumped to Tonys defence.

 

[securespark]

How would more police cope with the threat and carnage that we are currently seeing?..........So how exactly would more police be beneficial?

More police working on intelligence would mean forces would be better able to study suspect individuals. Prevention after all is the desirable outcome.

Do you mean like "bobbies on the beat"?

Those too. More police (ESP armed police) on the streets would be a comfort for all law-abiding citizens and a deterrent to others.

then you libertard lot

your beloved tony bliar

That's one heck of a ramble there... Who are you addressing?

TB is certainly not my beloved... In fact, I joined a street demonstration in Manchester many years ago waving a placard with that very name on it.