BBC license removal Bring it on Boris !

[Notch7]

And yet, you'd expect to see licence uptake in decline, surely?

I dont think licence fee uptake is a good indicator of how much people watch BBC, Its pretty hard to avoid paying the licence fee.


From the Guardian:
The basic rule is that you must have a TV licence if you watch, record or otherwise consume live television. It doesn’t matter which television stations you watch, or how you watch them. You still have to buy a licence if you only watch live streams from Mongolia’s Eagle TV channel

I personally like the idea of the UK having tv channels that has programming not dictated by commercial pressures. Its a worry that Amazon etc are ruling the world, thats a dangerous capitalist route.

I really hate this governments drive to quash any media that criticises them......at the moment whatever Johnson utters the rabid brexers start chanting it. We are in a phase of dangerous nationalism where lies and misinformation are acceptable.....and screams of BBC bias is the current chant.

But taking the licence fee as a seperate issue, my concern is that younger generation may not see the BBC licence fee as being relevant to them.....

 

[fillyboy]

and screams of BBC bias is the current chant.

Not just the current chant Notch, it's been the chant for many years, and deservedly so. I stopped watching BBC news after being shocked at some of their comments during the 'arab spring', such was their excitement you would be forgiven for thinking the uprising was led by BBC journalists. Of course, when it all turned to shoite, Aunty Beeb slinked away into the background and kept her head down for a while.

Question time is another example where it's not unusual to find four remainers vs one leaver on the panel. Oddly enough, having met David Dimbleby when I was on QT, I would say he's a sound cove who strives for neutrality, but QT is a big team of producers and executives, David was just the front man, and a good one at that.
I've always heard that the audience is mainly comprised of Labour activists and watching some of the programmes it's easy to see how you might arrive at that conclusion.
In my case I applied to go on, got a call on my mobile the day before the programme was due on and asked what question I would ask the panel, thinking on my feet I gave them a question that would make me appear a bit left of centre, I got a call back saying I'm in and had to bring two further questions along on the night, neither of mine were chosen.
If there is any bias on QT, it comes from the production/management side of things, they have the ability to shape the programme/audience before it starts.
That said, it was an enjoyable evening and if it's ever on in your town, go, a good night out and it's free.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I take it they did not ask you your political preference, then.


Just watched the beginning again and Bruce stated that the audience, "as usual, has been picked to reflect the current political picture where we are".

However she then said "as we are in England a majority of Conservatives..."; not Liverpool.

 

[Notch7]

Not just the current chant Notch, it's been the chant for many years, and deservedly so

Only by RWR.
Both RW and LW accuse the BBC of bias.

The BBC have been as weak as any of the media in terms of holding lying and inept brexiteers to account.


If you want propaganda and lies look to the Tory party, the Telegraph and the Daily Mail.
The depth of dishonesty spouted by them is a 1000 tines worse than anything the beeb have done.

 

[Ihavenojob]

The BBC have been as weak as any of the media

Despite Brexit.

 

[Vinty]

The traditional role of the BBC was to tell the nation who their enemies were,

 

[FrodoOne]

The basic rule is that you must have a TV licence if you watch, record or otherwise consume live television. It doesn’t matter which television stations you watch, or how you watch them. You still have to buy a licence if you only watch live streams from Mongolia’s Eagle TV channel

I personally like the idea of the UK having tv channels that has programming not dictated by commercial pressures. Its a worry that Amazon etc are ruling the world, thats a dangerous capitalist route.

But taking the licence fee as a seperate issue, my concern is that younger generation may not see the BBC licence fee as being relevant to them.....

Of necessity, my comments relate only to the Radio/TV licence fee itself.
Many Commonwealth (and other countries) adopted the BBC model of having (Radio) licence fees to pay for a "Public Broadcaster" in the 1920/1930s.

Canada dropped such fees in 1953, Australia in 1974 and New Zealand in 1990.

In Australia, all Radio/TV licence fees were abolished in 1974 on the basis that the near-universality of television and radio services meant that public funding was a fairer method of providing revenue for government-owned radio and television broadcasters.
The ABC has since then been funded by government grants.
The ABC does not have any commercial sponsorship - and pads out the time where Commercials may have been on US and other programs by showing "promotions" for their own programs, fortunately, only at the end of programs.

There is a "Special Broadcasting Service" (SBS) largely government funded but which now does have some commercial sponsorship but, originally, did not.

Of course, any fee, such as a TV Licence Fee, which is uniform per household is effectively a "Poll Tax" - since it it is the same for all households, irrespective of income.

 

[Bodd]

Only by RWR.
Both RW and LW accuse the BBC of bias.

The BBC have been as weak as any of the media in terms of holding lying and inept brexiteers to account.


If you want propaganda and lies look to the Tory party, the Telegraph and the Daily Mail.
The depth of dishonesty spouted by them is a 1000 tines worse than anything the beeb have done.

Your like a battered wife. You loved the Torys all those years. Despite the lies. You've had the courage to leave..... Well done Notch...

 

[Notch7]

The traditional role of the BBC was to tell the nation who their enemies were,

In that case they should be putting more effort into exposing Boris Johnsons lies.

It is Tory and Brexit lies which are the enemies of this country.

It will be the biggest cause of damage to the UK since WW2

 

[mattylad]

Yet we are still here, we recovered from ww2 and got better.
Things may be hard for a while but it will all sort itself out, at least we won't have the same issues those stuck in the EU have to put up with.

I place my trust in Boris.... lolz

 

[ellal]

at least we won't have the same issues those stuck in the EU have to put up with.

So what are those 'issues', and how did they affect you personally?

 

[JohnD]

However she then said "as we are in England a majority of Conservatives..."

I don't believe the majority of English citizens are Cons.

The Cons did however get nearly half the votes in the 2019 election.

So it would be more accurate to say "we are in England a majority of Not Conservatives."

 

[EFLImpudence]

So what are those 'issues', and how did they affect you personally?

Tampons could be 5% cheaper.

 

[Notch7]

at least we won't have the same issues those stuck in the EU have to put up with

Of course we will have the same issues.

Any country that wishes to trade with other nations has to agree standards regulations, trade deals that are negotiated on reciprocity.
The comprises that are reached, mean giving up or pooling sovereignty.

The UK as a medium sized country will be forced to concede a great deal because its maon trading partners; EU, US, China are all around 6X bigger.

 

[Notch7]

I dont remember in 2016, the leave campaign selling Brexit as:

"We will get over the damage of brexit like WW2, it might take 50 years."

I think you will agree its a bit different to: "the easiest deal in history"