That doctor in the covid ward on the news last night.

[JP_]

Anyway, some good news, research shows that drinking wine can stop you getting covid...

Covid research finds drinking wine could help protect against virus | Lancashire Telegraph

Having done much research into wine drinking myself, I broadly agree with their findings.

It was drinking red wine that made me realise something was wrong when I first caught covid - I thought it was a dodgy bottle because it didn't taste or smell of anything. Took me another day before I realised I couldn't smell or taste anything.

 

[Bodgedbuild]

The covid death figures have always been misleading. The number released by the ONS recently of deaths from covid alone, if true, at 17,000 for the whole two years, is rather telling.

I normally bow out of these discussions but this is one that riles me, I had a very close call with COVID and although I do have a co-morbidity, I am likely to live for at least another 30 years. If I had died from COVID, it most certainly would not just be " shortening my inevitable death" which is what rather too many anti-vaxxers believe.
Don't always assume that because rather a lot of us have a medical condition that it is ok for us to die. I managed to spend 8 years of my life with a heart issue and still be fit enough to be a serving Fire Fighter and I was discharged from the care of the Coronary Clinic over 7 years ago with no return since. My heart (and lung) damage was caused by sepsis and although I am much more likely to die from any illness, especially a respiratory one, my condition will not shorten my natural life by any significant margin.

 

[Bodgedbuild]

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[Harry Bloomfield]

Yesterday, standing waiting for the bus home after a bit of shopping, I was ear-wigging into a middle aged couples conversation. The female was moaning about wearing a mask she had just put on. Neither sounded particularly bright, but the male was saying that by the end of the week they could throw their masks away at last - obviously obvious of the actual rules and need to wear them on public transport.

 

[AngleEyes]

You missed the formulae i used to produce these percentages.

Oops, I'm terribly sorry. I appear to have missed what you didn't provide.

Im not wasting my spare time on a bigoted fool explaining.

No prob's. I've plenty of time to expose nonsense.
You keep presenting nonsense, and I'll keep exposing it.

 

[AngleEyes]

The point is that covid, like any other virus, is most dangerous to the very old and the sick and relatively harmless to the young and healthy, i.e. most of the population - therefore we should not have had universal restrictions. Resources should have been concentrated on the most susceptible.

Assuming your theory was accurate (which it isn't), we'd have to segregate the population, and totally deny any interaction between young healthy people with those older, or sick.
So what do you suggest, that we shut all the old and sick in some prison camp to fend for themselves, deny them any interaction with their younger healthy relatives, and leave them to fend for themselves?
While the rest of the country parties? You'd make a good PM.

and you won't get "pneumonia alone with no comorbidities"; pneumonia is a natural bodily reaction to to some other infection, virus, injury etc.

So anyone who catches Covid and then dies of pneumonia? What do you propose the doctors put on the death cert'?

 

[Deleted member 292770]

Anyway, some good news, research shows that drinking wine can stop you getting covid...

Covid research finds drinking wine could help protect against virus | Lancashire Telegraph

Having done much research into wine drinking myself, I broadly agree with their findings.

Typical of the drivvel the media put out there to sexy a story up. They could have said ,for the benefit of the population , eating polyphenol rich food and fruit decreases your chances of getting covid.

 

[AngleEyes]

Typical of the drivvel the media put out there to sexy a story up. They could have said ,for the benefit of the population , eating polyphenol rich food and fruit decreases your chances of getting covid.

But that wouldn't be a sensational article. It wouldn't sell newspapers.

 

[ajohn]

Yesterday, standing waiting for the bus home after a bit of shopping, I was ear-wigging into a middle aged couples conversation. The female was moaning about wearing a mask she had just put on. Neither sounded particularly bright, but the male was saying that by the end of the week they could throw their masks away at last - obviously obvious of the actual rules and need to wear them on public transport.

It seems that the actual change is no masks but advise people to wear them in crowded places. There has been mention that masks on public transport will still be required but only in London. Some people will see it as covid is all over again.

One of the people that get dug out to comment on changes sees this one as too soon mentioning that infection levels will be similar or higher to when plan B was imposed. It wont take long to find out if he is correct and recent figures show infections are levelling out and no longer falling after just 1 week of get back to work.

Some time ago now they removed support from people who were being heavily supported to prevent them from catching covid. A comment in the house - high end masks offer a fair degree of protection for these people. Maybe this stage now applies to all people who are more likely to have more serious problems if they catch it. Not just death. Any that need hospitalisation. Those figures should show all over the next month or so but could take longer as it usually does after any time they interfere with covid spread.

So rather than living with it maybe we are catching it with some dying of it until we reach high levels of natural herd immunity with help via the vaccines but not for all.

 

[JP_]

covid is all over

Yay! Party!

 

[AngleEyes]

One of the people that get dug out to comment on changes .....It wont take long to find out if he is correct ...

It'll take forever, if we don't know who 'he' is.

 

[JP_]

So rather than living with it maybe we are catching it with some dying of it until we reach high levels of natural herd immunity with help via the vaccines but not for all.

I think this is sort of the plan. But it doesn't change the fact that as we get older our immune systems get weaker, so covid might take us early still. This is why vaccination is the only solution long term - it doesn't look like Covid 19 will go away and like flu, likely to continue to mutate into new strains that deliver new challenges.

 

[AngleEyes]

Some people will see it as covid is all over again.

Yay! Party!

Oh! I thought he meant Covid was all over, i.e. everywhere.

 

[Deleted member 292770]

as we get older our immune systems get weaker, so covid might take us early still. This is why vaccination is the only solution long term

bizzare claim. The ‘vaccine’ is short lived. For long term ‘protection’ you have to keep exposing yourself to it. Are you that blinkered that you do not hear of the people becoming ill from it. Granted short lived ,but continuous exposure of your immune system. Does this not in itself weaken you and your immune system to other things. Of course it does.

 

[AngleEyes]

The ‘vaccine’ is short lived.

That is why boosters are needed.

For long term ‘protection’ you have to keep exposing yourself to it.

So if someone has a susceptibility to say, pneumonia, which can easily be triggered by flu', you think their best defence is to continually expose themselves to flu'?
Bizarre claim!

Are you that blinkered that you do not hear of the people becoming ill from it.

Even dying from it!
That'll do wonders for their immune system.

Granted short lived ,but continuous exposure of your immune system.

Yes, it's true some people are 'short-lived' when suffering from Covid.

Does this not in itself weaken you and your immune system to other things. Of course it does.

Aah, so now you'd accept that suffering from Covid can cause other problems.
I do believe you're beginning to get it.