Nonsense. You waffled about something irrelevant.
Heroin has never been legalised for recreational use. Yet you said it had. Please show where it has been legalised for recreational use please?
He wont. He can't.
Holy Smoke
- Thread starter Odds
- Start date
Heroin has never been legalised for recreational use. Yet you said it had. Please show where it has been legalised for recreational use please?
He wont. He can't.
should doctors be allowed to prescribe treatments that involve the use of magic mushrooms and other potentially useful psychedelic drugs? asks Aunty Beeb, in an interesting article that provides good and bad experiences, fuelling the debate on the ethics of decriminalisation. 'shrooms on the NHS? It'll never catch on, right?
- Joined
- 7 Nov 2023
- Messages
- 14,072
- Reaction score
- 8,354
- Country
The medical profession still uses leeches to this day so why not?
I wouldn't say 'widely prescribed', although it is used in treating chronic pain in certain cases. Glasgow is having some success in that kind of care.
Participants’ accounts of HAT treatment evidenced a tension between the regulatory constraints and uncertainty of treatment provision, and the positive outcomes experienced through supportive service provision and an injectable treatment option. Limited confidence was held in treatment efficacy, longevity of funding, and personal capacity for treatment success. This was counteracted by a strong motivation to cease engagement with the illicit drug market.
I have no personal experience of H. to make any kind of comparison, but i've eaten 'shrooms a few times and can say they give an interesting experience. It all depends what you mean by "worse" - More addictive? No. Most folk tend to enjoy a different trip, depending on several factors, such as environment and their state of mind, expectation and reaction to adverse emotions that may arise during the trip.
The trials will provide a database for further research into the efficacy of psylocibin in treating ptsd or in a therapeutic setting for a wide range of disorders. The Johns Hopkins Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research [is] exploring innovative treatments using psilocybin. The molecular structure of psilocybin, a naturally occurring psychedelic compound found in 'magic mushrooms,' allows it to penetrate the central nervous system and the scientific and medical experts are just beginning to understand its effects on the brain and mind and its potential as therapeutics for mental illnesses.
It is widely used for severe pain. I've been given it in hospital. The other name is used.
Diamorphine, IIRC.
Okay, but i don't see what your question...
has to do with your answer.
'shrooms have a different set of qualities altogether, having altogether different affects.
My point is that some people use the circular argument "cannabis is illegal, therefore it must be addictive and harmful, therefore it should be illegal and should not be medically prescribed even if it has a therapeutic effect"
But we know that heroin can be addictive and harmful, yet it can legally be medically prescribed.
We also know that alcohol can be addictive and harmful yet it can be legally purchased in any high street.
There is no sensible justification for the different standards.
Experts on drug use and control have consistently been overridden by politicians seeking to appease constituents whose opinions make no sense.
But we know that heroin can be addictive and harmful, yet it can legally be medically prescribed.
We also know that alcohol can be addictive and harmful yet it can be legally purchased in any high street.
There is no sensible justification for the different standards.
Experts on drug use and control have consistently been overridden by politicians seeking to appease constituents whose opinions make no sense.
- Joined
- 7 Nov 2023
- Messages
- 14,072
- Reaction score
- 8,354
- Country
Makes perfect sense to me, drugs used for medical reasons in a controlled and prescribed manner is perfectly normal, people walking around committing crimes and under the guise of being high as a kite is not acceptable. Are you suggesting we legalise anaesthetic's used by surgeons to self administer too. Drugs that are giving the user hallucinations and is sat on a bus or train next to you, be ok with that would you?
Drugs that relieve the symptoms of psychotic hallucination episodes are good yes. Not all drugs are bad.
That's the argument in a Nuttshell.
Germany’s decision to legalise cannabis is “redressing a historic wrong”, says the UK government’s former chief drugs adviser Professor David Nutt.
If addicts cannot find a way to find weed they resort to all kinds of alternatives - i recall watching a guy walking down the street with a bottle of glue up a nostril at nine in the morning. Lighter fuel was another way that made my mind boggle. Why would anyone subject their mind and body to such things?
Legally available cannabis would be one way to legitimise a market that will always supply an demand that never goes away. That's not to say the black market would be redundant, since the stronger strains of skunk are still highly sought after by people who can ride in the fast lane. For many people, however, it'd promote a safer method of enjoying their favourite brand at a lower risk to health while remaining on the right side of a law that recognises the right of adults to make a sensible decision on what they choose to take, weighing up the risk to their health just as they would do so in drinking alcohol.
