Khant argue with that

[Mottie]

And there are still folk out there that choose to ride around London in antiquated polluting death traps, for what ever reason, when it's probably cheaper to get a used conpliant vehicle or use the public transport.

Spoken like a true middle class blinkered wallah living in a 96.9% white community….

 

[noseall]

Spoken like a true middle class blinkered wallah living in a 96.9% white community….

What has that got to do with the truthful response I gave you? Are you losing it Motts?

 

[Mottie]

What has that got to do with the truthful response I gave you? Are you losing it Motts?

You really think those running £500 bangers could afford a used compliant vehicle? Maybe they could cut down on their skiing holidays to pay for one? Out of interest, what fuel powers your car and van?

 

[pete01]

Its all about money they dont care if us normal folk choke to death.....less pensioners to pay.

Wise up(TM)

 

[noseall]

You really think those running £500 bangers could afford a used compliant vehicle?

If they can afford to pay the daily ULEZ fees and ignore public transport - yes.

Maybe they could cut down on their skiing holidays to pay for one?

Do the RWR ski?

Out of interest, what fuel powers your car and van?

Diesel fuel (derv). My car is compliant and I think the van is too.

 

[Mottie]

A fairer way without spending a single penny let alone millions on ULEZ cameras would have been for khan to say "From today, only non compliant cars currently registered in the zone will be allowed to be driven in the zone and there will be a hefty fine (not a charge) if used in the zone. No new registrations in the zone of non compliant vehicles will be allowed. That way they would naturally expire over time and not have forced people into scrapping perfectly serviceable motor vehicles.

 

[IT Minion]

But only if they pay LEZ £100 to £300 a day...now that's a bargain

And trades people, they might need to bring tools.

 

[IT Minion]

A fairer way without spending a single penny let alone millions on ULEZ cameras would have been for khan to say "From today, only non compliant cars currently registered in the zone will be allowed to be driven in the zone and there will be a hefty fine (not a charge) if used in the zone. No new registrations in the zone of non compliant vehicles will be allowed. That way they would naturally expire over time and not have forced people into scrapping perfectly serviceable motor vehicles.

Yes, and then when SECAMBS refused to send their ambulances in because they'd be liable for the fine it would have been fine and no one would have complained.

And all the taxi drivers who live outside the zone wouldn't have minded in the least.

The army's white fleet wouldn't have minded either, nor would other police forces.

Hearses would have been fine, I'm sure they're all electric by now.

And all the trades that live outside inner London but work inside the ULEZ on occasion, they wouldn't have minded the fines.

Or anyone who lives just outside the line, the extra charge is bad and got plenty of press but a full ban would have been A-OK.

And how would you avoid having the cameras if you're still going to enforce your silly ban?

Its almost like you want to invent an even worse version of ULEZ.

 

[noseall]

A fairer way without spending a single penny let alone millions on ULEZ cameras would have been for khan to say "From today, only non compliant cars currently registered in the zone will be allowed to be driven in the zone and there will be a hefty fine (not a charge) if used in the zone. No new registrations in the zone of non compliant vehicles will be allowed. That way they would naturally expire over time and not have forced people into scrapping perfectly serviceable motor vehicles.

I can see a flaw in your poorly thought out plan.

 

[pete01]

And trades people, they might need to bring tools.

If they pay up no probs

 

[IT Minion]

If they pay up no probs

In Motties world they can't, presumably. He might have meant to only ban non compliant vehicles registered in the ULEZ zone in which case most of the problem vehicles would be exempt

 

[noseall]

If they pay up no probs

That sounds like ULEZ to me? Are you following this thread Pete?

 

[pete01]

That sounds like ULEZ to me? Are you following this thread Pete?

What thread

 

[noseall]

What thread

The one where Mottie wants to scrap ULEZ and replace it with a camera free - fine based penalty that is impossible to police and impossible to implement fairly across thousands of polluting but essential vehicle drivers.

 

[pete01]

The one where Mottie wants to scrap ULEZ and replace it with a camera free - fine based penalty that is impossible to police and impossible to implement fairly across thousands of polluting but essential vehicle drivers.

Oh, yeah im following