All countries which develop vaccine will use it themselves first. They've all done it
Except that the UK imported around half its doses from other countries.
Your claims are simply nonsense.
All countries which develop vaccine will use it themselves first. They've all done it
No surprise to see anti-EU mania being whipped up in Johnson's Britain.
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Jeds claims that forty million doses is "a few boxes."
I'd say it's if anything the opposite. For island nations there's the potential to eradicate Covid-19 within the borders. Less so for counties with land borders but to a lesser degree.Has it occurred to people that high vaccination rates in the UK compared to elsewhere may be counter-productive in the long run?
An insular, nationalist approach could ultimately backfire on us.
China, Russia, India are all large exporters of vaccines. The EU has exported 40 million.Come on John, this is few boxes on the World scale. You yourself rightly said; 8 billion people! All countries which develop vaccine will use it themselves first. They've all done it and it's only natural, but the bigger picture is the other 7.9999 billion.
I agree but this isn't the role of individual countries. The central coordination is COVAX, which most of the wealthy countries subscribe to, including the UK. You cannot just send vaccine to low income countries. They also need systems, facilities and coordinators to make sure the vaccines are deployed correctly and efficiently.China, Russia, India are all large exporters of vaccines. The EU has exported 40 million.
The US and the UK are on the fringe, us in particular as we're a significant net importer. Up to a point I'm all for that, but really now we're wrapping up the over 50s I think we should be slowing down and helping other nations protect their vulnerable people.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean John? The quote isn't mine.yep, that's jed for you.
I don't think it is a red herring. I think that we should ask ourselves who should get a vaccine first, a 70 year old Brazilian or a 40 something British teacher? Because we have chosen the latter by ensuring that we are consuming the doses ourselves, preventing Covax so that they cannot be sent to other nations that also need them. We're eating our cake and promising other countries they can have some once we're full and more has been baked.I agree but this isn't the role of individual countries. The central coordination is COVAX, which most of the wealthy countries subscribe to, including the UK. You cannot just send vaccine to low income countries. They also need systems, facilities and coordinators to make sure the vaccines are deployed correctly and efficiently.
Importation/exportation is a red herring.
Jed claims that forty million doses is "a few boxes."
That's jed for you.
I'd say it's if anything the opposite. For island nations there's the potential to eradicate Covid-19 within the borders. Less so for counties with land borders but to a lesser degree.
If you assume that any infection anywhere has the same chance of creating a new strain the goal should be to reduce the total number of infections above all, so aiming for eradication, and to try to avoid any new strains traveling.
My wife remarked today that there seemed to be more aeroplanes flying about lately. Surely they should be able to cancel all non essential flights, a lot of business could be done via the 'net, then more patrols around our coasts to repel invaders. A friends daughter has been in Mexico for over a year, only because she says there is less restrictions and cases there than are reported here, she would feel a prisoner if she came back.For island nations there's the potential to eradicate Covid-19 within the borders.
So do countries that weren't hesitant. Countries that aren't in the EU also were hesitant.That all come under the banner of the EU, ...
I fail to see how a discussion about the import/export of vaccines can be remotely considered as anti-UK.John, I explained that in what I thought was a fair and rational way in post 75. I had you down as a reasonable bloke but it's beginning to look like your anti-UK obsession is getting the better of you.