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It illustrates that your argument is exhausted.You'll get sucked back in again just like me. Be abusive, she doesn't like that.
Whether I like it or not is immaterial.
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Whether I like it or not is immaterial.
I always have mixed feelings about illegal immigration. There's no way of realistically defining this (as in who's who), however I have sympathy for those who have fled genuinely difficult circumstances and less sympathy (if any) for those who just wanted to get to the UK and weren't actually fleeing anything as such. And I also get there's a whole side debate about if you're fleeing genuine difficulties you'd be content staying in the first (closest) country to your homeland offering shelter as oppose to traversing a few of those countries to reach the UK. However there are often genuine reasons for this (from the immigrants perspective) e.g. reaching family already here.
The whole thing around immigration, legal or illegal, is a bit of a clusterf*ck. Policies and procedures that aren't always upheld due to government depts. (local and UK) being underfunded and/or understaffed and/or poorly managed. As always I tend to look at things a bit simplistically, however some of what's gone on over recent years makes you laugh. e.g. immigrants in France blatantly trying to get into/onto lorries that are destined for the UK, with little or no attempt to stop them. Why weren't France and the UK throwing money at that issue for a while? France probably happy to see the back of them? It seemed to take forever and a day for security at the French ports to be beefed up. And it's only recently that more funding has been announced to enable more border patrols to try and reduce the amount of dinghies making it across the channel. Why weren't these patrols beefed up years ago? We seem to talk about issues for years without any discernible action to resolve them. No wonder some start to go down conspiracy theory routes about part of it being intentional to drive whatever political agenda and/or to create a certain societal mood.
As to the OPs point, surely for all our sakes, it's best if everyone in the UK is vaccinated to mitigate the spread of covid. If some of those being vaccinated are here illegally, so what? The priority just now is ensuring we get this under control. The rights and wrongs of who's in the country is a separate (although linked) debate.
The whole thing around immigration, legal or illegal, is a bit of a clusterf*ck. Policies and procedures that aren't always upheld due to government depts. (local and UK) being underfunded and/or understaffed and/or poorly managed. As always I tend to look at things a bit simplistically, however some of what's gone on over recent years makes you laugh. e.g. immigrants in France blatantly trying to get into/onto lorries that are destined for the UK, with little or no attempt to stop them. Why weren't France and the UK throwing money at that issue for a while? France probably happy to see the back of them? It seemed to take forever and a day for security at the French ports to be beefed up. And it's only recently that more funding has been announced to enable more border patrols to try and reduce the amount of dinghies making it across the channel. Why weren't these patrols beefed up years ago? We seem to talk about issues for years without any discernible action to resolve them. No wonder some start to go down conspiracy theory routes about part of it being intentional to drive whatever political agenda and/or to create a certain societal mood.
As to the OPs point, surely for all our sakes, it's best if everyone in the UK is vaccinated to mitigate the spread of covid. If some of those being vaccinated are here illegally, so what? The priority just now is ensuring we get this under control. The rights and wrongs of who's in the country is a separate (although linked) debate.
If you do have to have a vaccination to be able to travel, what would happen to an illegal who gets here and refuses the jab?
because noseall they need vaccinating
the world requires vaccinating
wat sort of a scoundrel do you take me for
vaccinate than lob em out the country
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I don't know what sort of person you are, but I'm the sort of person who helps those in immediate distress first, & asks questions later.
What sort of person would ask that question first???
What sort of person would ask that question first???
I agree. Then they should be vaccinated.
However, you said this...
There is no effective vaccine that can be contaminated with a tracer. Therefore what you are asking is that these people are simply injected with some sort of tracking device. Costly too.Well the way I see it
all these illegals could be jabbed up and also some type of tracer type chip put into the jab
than say 6 months down the line trace em
You still haven't said how you propose identifying those who need a tracking device and why then, if you can identify illegals, why bother with the expensive tracking?
well transam was thinking out the box in order to solve a problem
if u want to encourage illegals to come forward for a jab there must be some type of amnesty
so some underhanded plans needs to be hatched
Can I suggest perhaps a period of incubation - before hatching- in order to nurture and refine your..er..plan. It's a bit haphazard and incoherent.
Can I suggest perhaps a period of incubation - before hatching- in order to nurture and refine your..er..plan. It's a bit haphazard and incoherent.
transam is an ideas person
he will leave the finer details to
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I used to work with someone like that, only we called it 'clearing up his mess'.transam is an ideas person
he will leave the finer details to
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I’d say transam is a visionary.I used to work with someone like that, only we called it 'clearing up his mess'.
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I'd say he tries to leave a mess in his wake. But as he's such a clown no-one takes him seriously.I’d say transam is a visionary.
But that shouldn't detract from his earnest attempts to promote hatred and division towards ethnic minorities.
It's disappointing that he's allowed to persist with his hobby horse of promoting hatred and division, but a BBC/OU video is deleted on the pretext that it is my hobby horse.
Talking of illegals, I can't get my breath at this.
Some illegal Iranian national was jailed in 2016 for a sexual offence involving a child. He was bailed in May 2018.
He asked the Home Office for housing under a law for 'destitute people whose claims to stay in the UK have been rejected'. He was not given the free housing, so lived on the street.
So the Home Secretary is in trouble for not housing an illegal failed asylum seeker and child rapist.
WTF? Why is this nonce still here, and why should he be housed and supported off the state?
Home secretary could face contempt of court charge - BBC News
Some illegal Iranian national was jailed in 2016 for a sexual offence involving a child. He was bailed in May 2018.
He asked the Home Office for housing under a law for 'destitute people whose claims to stay in the UK have been rejected'. He was not given the free housing, so lived on the street.
So the Home Secretary is in trouble for not housing an illegal failed asylum seeker and child rapist.
WTF? Why is this nonce still here, and why should he be housed and supported off the state?
Home secretary could face contempt of court charge - BBC News
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