Anybod recognize this Black and Decker Professional drill?

[slaterlp]

Hi,

I burnt out my approximately 25/6 year old Black and Decker professional combi drill the other day.
After so many years it had a right I guess. The field winding got a bit too hot and sparks flew.

Its otherwise in great working order, and one of the best I have ever had.

I dont want to get rid of it as it is such a good and compact drill.

My problem is I lost the identifying label on the side years ago and can't remember the model number.

P something or other.

Does anybody know it from the picture?

Its a 2 speed, all metal gearbox case, and ALL METAL gears as well. ---Variable speed and reverse, as well as hammer action.

I want to get a new field winding but without the model number I am lost.

I will buy a new drill, but finding one this good is not easy, and I dont wan't another cordless. The bats dont last even 5 years let alone 25.

Anybody recognize it?

 

[merlin50]

http://www.powertoolspares.com/buy-parts/#/browse/black-and-decker/drills-2-spares-and-accessories

 

[slaterlp]

Hi thanks for the link.

My problem is without the model number I dont know which drill to look at.

I might have to go through everyone that starts with a P I suppose.

 

[^woody^]

That is seriously old skool. Are your sure its only 25 years old?

What is that funny looking chuck with some sort of gearing on it?

 

[slaterlp]

Yup bought from RS Components at around 1986/7.

The serated black ring is the hammer action. You grip and twist it to engage or disengage it.

NEVER ever went wrong. Until now, and its only a field winding thats gone, so if I can get one the drill is good for a long time to come.

I dropped it once 30 feet from a scafold and it was barely marked.

 

[muggles]

Have you tried taking to a local tool repair shop to see if they can do anything with it?

 

[slaterlp]

All I need is a model number. The label fell of the side years ago.


I know how to fix it, I know what's wrong with it.

I just need an identification.

Does anybody recognize the model number or type?

 

[1john]

I have something similar, although it is orange, could you post a pic of the other side, i'm wondering if they share any components....

 

[merlin50]

if you look at the link i gave you its unlikely the part is still available and if it is it will be the price of a better drill

 

[seaangler]

after spending the day dredging through my memory I think that its a p2270 or if its variable speed a p2271 ( 18 year old memories though so i cant be 100% sure)
Try getting in touch with the liverpool powertool centre - used to be the B&D service center so some of the staff may remember

 

[slaterlp]

Hi

Thanks for all the replies.

I checked out the p2270/1, and unfortunately its not the same. http://www.mtmc.co.uk/Black--Decker...pe-1-Drill-Spare-Parts__p-12707836-20778.aspx

The field winding looks the same shape, and is cheap enough, but without knowing its electrical spec, I cant match it. But I am CERTAIN, that my drill shared field windings with many other models and even manufacturers.

Replacement. I looked at new drills as soon as this packed up. Frankly, discounting cordless, there isn't a better drill on sale that has the same spec. -------- 2 speed, ALL steel gearbox, all metal gear casing, variable speed in each gear, reversable, and VERY good hammer action. AND compact. -----Used over 20 years on site, and never gave any trouble till now.

I have already looked at new cordeds, and cant find one that has ALL steel g/box/2 speed and compact.

But if you can find one and let me know I will take a look. But it seems that corded drills are being phased out judging by the relatively few models being made now. (Compared to cordless).

As for cost, I expect a field winding to cost less than 50 quid. What drill can you buy for that money, that will last long, if used to push a 1-1/2 spade bit through solid old oak countless numerous times, and still last over 20 years without stripping the gearbox. Let alone the thousands of holes I have drilled in concrete with oversized masonry bits. I've even used it as a core drill.

I honestly had know idea it was this good until I bought it and used it. I wish I had bought 2 at the time.

I dont want a cordless, as even if the drill is as good, 3 or 4 years from now I will have to throw it away because of battery supply. And anyway, I prefer corded, endless power. I have a cordless for when its convenient, but 9 out of 10 use my corded.

Here is a pic of the other side as requested, but it's the same, with the addition of the missing ID plate.

Thanks guys. And gals

 

[seaangler]

have a scroll thtough here
http://www.partshopdirect.co.uk/sto...20Mag%20Drill%20Press%2C%20Tappers¦185¦Drills

 

[slpj]

Hi,

I looked through the VERY comprehensive lists of b and d drills on the site link you sent me, and still not there.

Its beginning to make me suspicious.

It seems inconceivable that the drill is not listed.

I rang and spoke to B and D technical, and he talked about several companies that b/d took over. he mentioned one called elu or elv.

Anyway, I looked at the ELU lists and there are drills there that are MUCH closer in design then the b and d ones appear to be. But still not exact.

I am wondering if my drill is a re-badge other make, and that to find it I have to find out which one.

Its frustrating, because the filed windings are VERY cheap. If I can only find out which one I need.

I am going to strip the drill and remove the winding and inspect all parts for numbers or makers marks.

Who knows I might get lucky.

It might even be an old De-walt for all i know.

Its become a challenge now to find out about this drill LOL.

Thanks for trying.

 

[noseall]

Buy a Bosch blue sds and you will never think about that antique drill again.

The Bosch will last twice as long also.

 

[seaangler]

its definatly B&D professional
and teh more i look at the pics the more i'm convinced its a p2271