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I can believe the shock you experienced from your encounters with our so called police force,but I think we have come to expect the disrespectful way we are treated when trying to do what is right. What is hard to believe is the way some of us try to ridicule your story(probably belong to the force or the "F... YOU I'M ALL RIGHT JACK" brigade). well,I wouldn't even try justifying yourself but you never know....one day they may be the ones involved and looking round for witnesses, now, you could just be driving past and showing them how to demonstrate the gesture of counting to two.Thus showing them what it it like to be a member of the brigade.
I can believe the shock you experienced from your encounters with our so called police force,but I think we have come to expect the disrespectful way we are treated when trying to do what is right. What is hard to believe is the way some of us try to ridicule your story(probably belong to the force or the "F... YOU I'M ALL RIGHT JACK" brigade). well,I wouldn't even try justifying yourself but you never know....one day they may be the ones involved and looking round for witnesses, now, you could just be driving past and showing them how to demonstrate the gesture of counting to two.Thus showing them what it it like to be a member of the brigade.
regardless of what anyone thinks of the 'anecdotes' here, it's quite clear that the police are no longer predominately interested in preventing crime - they are now effectively a 'reactive force'!
they enforce laws that penalise minor enfingements rather than go about the hard work of catching real criminals..
through legislation that is designed to 'protect' the government from its electorate, the police are now taking on the role of 'state enforcers' and 'state fundraisers'!
they enforce laws that penalise minor enfingements rather than go about the hard work of catching real criminals..
through legislation that is designed to 'protect' the government from its electorate, the police are now taking on the role of 'state enforcers' and 'state fundraisers'!
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You are allowed to use your mobile hand held in an emergency. As for the red light...bad luck!
You are allowed to use your mobile hand held in an emergency. As for the red light...bad luck!
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securespark said:
I have no idea to the phone question, I would assume no..and being legal is why my battery was flat..bluetooth kills the blooming things!!
On the second point, not a lot I can do about that, I did cross the line, I wasn't as attentive as anyone in charge of a vehicle should be, so it is my intention to plead Guilty, explain the situation to the magistrates and see what happens. According to the Solicitor it may be 3 points and a £100 fine, but he thinks that under the circumstances they may simply offer me a "Driver Awareness" Course instead, so effectively a £110 fine (cost of the course) and no points...but I lose a days pay as well.. Can't argue that.
As for the comments that have been made in this thread about what I said, the miles I drive and those who have "defended me" may I say, that I do appreciate the comments in my favour, but I would like to point out that I do not take those comments personally, I think they are simply asking valid questions...100K miles a year is a heck of a lot, so I understand that many people are unsure of the figure.
The 240,000 I did was when working in Canada/US, for the Job I was driving the equivelent of a 7.5T truck which was a workshop and transport around the US and Canada that year, and sdo long as I eat and drink water, I can drive (or used to be able too) for upwards of 16/17 hours with only loo breaks...When you drive like that in the States/Canada it isn't hard to clock up the miles....thankfully I have a lot more sense these days...well some anyway
those of you that voted labour have got the police force you deserve. There are lots of decent people out there trying to do the job, but they are having their hands tied by the ridiculous policies and targets set them. Im not going to get into this now, because if i do my answer will probably go on for at least 10 pages, just like my resignation form did, which asked me why i left!
My credit card company didn't change my address when I had moved.
So a new card and PIN were shipped to my old address. Somebody there used it to the tune of £800 in cash withdrawals.
Now - the cash machine they used has CCTV. And the police knew exactly the time it had been used. And where the person lived.
But when I called for a crime number first of all the police in London (100 yards from the address in question) said it was not their business but the police station where I now live. AND THEN HUNG UP.
My local police said 'the card company are making a mug of you, getting you to get a crime number. Tell them the crime is against them and to report it themselves'.
I got my money back but it revealed to me the mentality of the police. They do what the bosses say they have to, anything more you can shove off.
It narks me that somebody can steal £800 and it is easily proveable yet the police don't want to know. It's morally wrong.
So a new card and PIN were shipped to my old address. Somebody there used it to the tune of £800 in cash withdrawals.
Now - the cash machine they used has CCTV. And the police knew exactly the time it had been used. And where the person lived.
But when I called for a crime number first of all the police in London (100 yards from the address in question) said it was not their business but the police station where I now live. AND THEN HUNG UP.
My local police said 'the card company are making a mug of you, getting you to get a crime number. Tell them the crime is against them and to report it themselves'.
I got my money back but it revealed to me the mentality of the police. They do what the bosses say they have to, anything more you can shove off.
It narks me that somebody can steal £800 and it is easily proveable yet the police don't want to know. It's morally wrong.
So what have you done about it? You have the option to formally report the driver's conduct, to the police. If you do that then they will have no alternative but to investigate. Or you could do nothing...Big_Spark said:
So, presumably you took the numbers of the officers and have reported them? Or did you do nothing but come on here and moan about them?
The third incident, of course.
You are an utterly, utterly, dangerous fool, and it's a good thing that you were kept away from the public, even though it was only 23 hours.
Could that be because what he did wasn't an arrestable offence?
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What a thoughtless think to say. People may have voted Labour because they believed Labour would provide better education, health service, housing etc but because of that they deserve a cr*p police force?
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Once again Softhead shows his true colours.
Of course driving off from an accident is an arrestable offence you bloody fool, I suggest you try it and see how far you get.
Softus, your post simply prooves to me what type of person you truly are, I don't give a rats arse what you think of me, my opinion of you is lower than a snakes nuts, but the incidents I have mentioned should be a concern to all of us..especially serving Police Officers who are simply trying to do a tough job under extreme pressure..Abuse of power is unforgivable, it is a breach of trust that we all put in the Police and musat never be tolerated or the next step will be a Police State.
Yes I did make a formal complaint about the officers in question with regards the young lad, as did a couple of other people who witnessed the incident, we have been told that "It is unlikely that any action will be taken under the circumstances"..which we all took to mean, bugger all will be done about it.
And as the complaint about the driver..as a sole witness, the Police will not take any action..this I know from old, and I am sure Thermo is able to confirm..my 999 call is effectively a comliant, it is on tape, and I questioned the decision by the road side, only to be questioned as to why I phoned 999..as I stated in the op.
Of course driving off from an accident is an arrestable offence you bloody fool, I suggest you try it and see how far you get.
Softus, your post simply prooves to me what type of person you truly are, I don't give a rats arse what you think of me, my opinion of you is lower than a snakes nuts, but the incidents I have mentioned should be a concern to all of us..especially serving Police Officers who are simply trying to do a tough job under extreme pressure..Abuse of power is unforgivable, it is a breach of trust that we all put in the Police and musat never be tolerated or the next step will be a Police State.
Yes I did make a formal complaint about the officers in question with regards the young lad, as did a couple of other people who witnessed the incident, we have been told that "It is unlikely that any action will be taken under the circumstances"..which we all took to mean, bugger all will be done about it.
And as the complaint about the driver..as a sole witness, the Police will not take any action..this I know from old, and I am sure Thermo is able to confirm..my 999 call is effectively a comliant, it is on tape, and I questioned the decision by the road side, only to be questioned as to why I phoned 999..as I stated in the op.
I don't have false colours.
Think carefully before you lie, because if you had written then you would have received a written reply, and written replies from the police don't contain the words "it is unlikely".
And if you haven't written to your MP about the issues you've raised here, then you can't claim that you've done everything you can.
I'm not the kind of dangerous and law-breaking driver that you so clearly are, so I won't be trying it, but I'm still doubtful that the offence is an arrestable one. This feels like one of your all-too-familiar "everyone else is a fool / oops I'm the fool" scenarios - you know, the type where you express utter certainty about some 'fact', only to have to backtrack later on and admit the mistake. There are countless examples of this phenomenon littered throughout the forums, including your claimed specialism of electrics.
Yeah right.
Was it a written complaint, or did you just bleat at someone while standing at the roadside?
Think carefully before you lie, because if you had written then you would have received a written reply, and written replies from the police don't contain the words "it is unlikely".
(1) They will if you write to them - they have to at least write back, and (2) you don't know that you're the only witness.
No it isn't, it's just a whingey bloke whinging on tape. If you don't write then you haven't formally complained.
And if you haven't written to your MP about the issues you've raised here, then you can't claim that you've done everything you can.
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Softus, almost EVERYTHING is an arrestable offence these days.. ask a Policeman.
Further, how is my driving anything to do with what happened, Yes I crossed a white line while at red, should not have happened, but if you knew the junction you would know that it was not as dangerous as you might expect..although to be honest at the time this was not in my head..simnply getting the hell out of the way...
As for bleating..hahahahaha..I could say something here, but it is a "family forum" and I will not let a gutless fascist like you wind me up..I think your a pathetic excuse for a man and you simply make me laugh..
You do all the bleating on this forum..usually about something someone else said...why don't you get a girlfriend or discover porn films that involve humans...then perhaps you will not be so frustrated
Further, how is my driving anything to do with what happened, Yes I crossed a white line while at red, should not have happened, but if you knew the junction you would know that it was not as dangerous as you might expect..although to be honest at the time this was not in my head..simnply getting the hell out of the way...
As for bleating..hahahahaha..I could say something here, but it is a "family forum" and I will not let a gutless fascist like you wind me up..I think your a pathetic excuse for a man and you simply make me laugh..
You do all the bleating on this forum..usually about something someone else said...why don't you get a girlfriend or discover porn films that involve humans...then perhaps you will not be so frustrated
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chill out guy ...lol...lol
chill out guy ...lol...lol
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