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[hard-work]

I will suggest that you try Ferroli technical support for advice and perhaps a warranty call and see how far you get without a credit card.

Ah! As I thought, it is the service backup you don't like. Fair enough. The Modena combi looks quite a good product to me. So they are letting down their own products.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Ah! As I thought, it is the service backup you don't like. Fair enough. The Modena combi looks quite a good product to me. So they are letting down their own products.

Lots of shiny products look OK. But believe me, they are a pariah.

 

[Razor900]

Dan I don't know why you're still feeding the trolls. The answer and reasons you gave at the start for using the ECO RF were spot on. Shame the mods allow the OPs post to be taken so off topic

And yes you most definitely need an analyser to commission the boilers, more crap from Bernie

 

[bernardgreen]

Bernard, the modulation in boilers is not primarily to heat a cylinder, although it can come in handy for that, it is to run down the kW output when heating radiators directly to match heat output of the boiler to the heat demand of the house and prevent boiler cycling.

Obviously matching boiler output to heating load is going to avoid the need to cycle on and off and that is what modulation is intended to achieve. But the range of heat outputs required when there is no cylinder is very wide, typically at least 5 to 1 and in a well insulated house could be 10 to 1 or greater. Designing a cost effective system of burner and heat exchanger(s) that is efficient at both ends of the range is far from a simple task. ( source :- a person whose career before retirement was designing specialist heat exchangers )

 

[bernardgreen]

And yes you most definitely need an analyser to commission the boilers, more crap from Bernie

Get it right. It was not me that made that statement.

There is a youtube video on commissioning the Intergas. It looks like a flue analyser is not needed while one is needed for the Ferrolli.

 

[Razor900]

No, just another persona Bernie

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

I don't know so why not tell me and at the same time educate others who may be considering buying a Ferroli

You know, you are right.... Everyone should have a Ferroli. Dan is just being mean pushing his preferred boiler, I do wish he would have a little consideration toward those of us who repair boilers rather than fit them, there are just not enough Ferrolis out there and Gledhill Boilermates/ Electramates are getting thin on the ground. If you don't freeze, then I can't eat.

 

[hard-work]

Dan I don't know why you're still feeding the trolls.

It is a discussion. You may not like it because you are hooked on one model of boiler. If you do not like the discussion do not enter the thread. No one forced you to.

 

[hard-work]

It is amazing how some threads descend into unnecessary unprovoked ad hom attacks, sneers and totally irrelevant comments. I don't know why people feel they need to do this.

 

[hard-work]

Get it right. It was not me that made that statement.

I cannot see an analyser being used here:

 

[vulcancontinental]

Designing a cost effective system of burner and heat exchanger(s) that is efficient at both ends of the range is far from a simple task. ( source :- a person whose career before retirement was designing specialist heat exchangers )

Not if you know what you're doing, think laterally and are world leaders in burner technology (source, me)

 

[Corgigrouch GTi]

It is amazing how some threads descend into unnecessary unprovoked ad hom attacks, sneers and totally irrelevant comments. I don't know why people feel they need to do this.

The OP asked us to recommend a decent boiler, he has received sound advise from several professionals who clearly know their stuff and then someone recommends the joke of the heating world and expects to be treated with respect..

 

[hard-work]

The OP asked us to recommend a decent boiler, he has received sound advise from several professionals who clearly know their stuff and then someone recommends the joke of the heating world and expects to be treated with respect..

Firstly, I like the Intergas. There is a plethora of boilers out there. Some say only the Intergas as it only has a few moving parts. Fine, that is their `opinion`, not `sound advice`. No one is castigating that valid `opinion`, and a video was posted, not by the pros, promoting that product. Discussions emerged about its plus points.

But there is another combi that also has 4 moving parts and a video was posted on that as well. It modulates lower than the Intergas, the poor modulation of the Intergas the pros admit is a negative point, and it has quality 3rd party components. It is also very well laid out inside as the video showed. This was given up to the thread for interest. It emerges that the backup is poor, even though the product may be good, so a useful positive for people reading emerged from that. They can make a valued judgement. I find it amazing anyone could become annoyed over that.

 

[hard-work]

Not if you know what you're doing, think laterally and are world leaders in burner technology (source, me)

Bernard, should go back to my post where I respond to his mentioning of cylinders.

 

[Razor900]

"The modern boilers premix gas and air like a carburretor"
More like fuel injection as the gas and air are both pressurised.

No the old style boilers were like fuel injection, VC has given the correct version - try googling zero governor

It is a discussion. You may not like it because you are hooked on one model of boiler. If you do not like the discussion do not enter the thread. No one forced you to.

It is amazing how some threads descend into unnecessary unprovoked ad hom attacks, sneers and totally irrelevant comments. I don't know why people feel they need to do this.

Hmm reconcile those two statements Mr Hard of thinking

I cannot see an analyser being used here:

The video is taken with a camera phone and has nothing to do with Intergas it's by a complete random. Four times during it he mentions taking readings and measurements I wonder what you do that with.........................