London cyclists dropping like flies

[AronSearle]

PMSL Clearly you do have to cross a road to cross a road.

Or you could just cycle on the road, then you have right of way and don't have to stop at every junction (just like the car drivers).

I mean, you people whine cyclists don't obey the traffic laws, then when they cycle on the road so they can, you whine.

yes I guess some people may walk on the cycle path.

It probably doesn't help that the cycle path you used as an example, randomly turns into a footpath at one point, and is only one one side of the road (so good luck if you want to go the other way, you have to cross a duel carriage way into oncoming traffic with no crossing).

You really don't have a clue do you?

 

[Deleted member 63160]

PMSL Clearly you do have to cross a road to cross a road.

Or you could just cycle on the road, then you have right of way and don't have to stop at every junction (just like the car drivers).

I mean, you people whine cyclists don't obey the traffic laws, then when they cycle on the road so they can, you whine.

yes I guess some people may walk on the cycle path.

It probably doesn't help that the cycle path you used as an example, randomly turns into a footpath at one point, and is only one one side of the road (so good luck if you want to go the other way, you have to cross a duel carriage way into oncoming traffic with no crossing).

You really don't have a clue do you?

Yes I do. I was referring to cyclists travelling southbound along the last mile or so of the dual carriageway where they had the option of a clear cycle path or cycling in the traffic. No junctions, no lampposts, no bus stops. Once I had slowed up in traffic where the road narrows, two of the cyclists I had passed way back cycled up the inside. They had chosen to cycle on the road rather than the cycle path. That was my original comment. That is what happened. I know I was there. Thank for your useful input though.

 

[LastMagicBean]

Numbnuts..


When does your bike get tested for brakes and bald tyres????????????????

Are you insured ?????????

 

[JBR]

A question for the pro-cycle-lane-lobby. London's a rather busy place. Where exactly would you place additional cycle lanes?

No, really. If you could provide a map of central London and outline your proposed new cycle lanes, I'd be very interested. I suppose you could close off a few roads to traffic, or maybe pull down a few buildings like Buck House.

Oh, and I suppose you'd expect motorists to fund them for you as well.

Oh-oh. Now I, too, am going to be on the receiving end of Ar**Se***'s rantings.

Sorry Aron. I'm sinking almost to your levels of verbal abuse, aren't I?

 

[securespark]

Head like a jelly.

I know you meant that as a cutting comment, but that's actually a compliment.

 

[AronSearle]

Yes I do. I was referring to cyclists travelling southbound along the last mile or so of the dual carriageway where they had the option of a clear cycle path or cycling in the traffic.

Uh uh.

So why did you not say that in the first instance, why not come out and say straight away that you were aware the vast majority of cycle lanes on the road you named where very poorly placed.

And I already answered your question, that "clear cycle path" you refere to, is shared by pedestrians (even shows people walking on it on street view), and terminates at a junction where you have no right of way.

Why would you bother to use it, is a more pertenant question, it's a footpath with a bit of red paint.

When does your bike get tested for brakes and bald tyres????????????????

Are you insured ?????????

It's interesting that you ignore whole swaths of my argument, many points made in response to your own comments, to then swap the argument to something completely irrelivent to your original points.

I think that says something about the strenght and worth of your arguments, do let us know old bean when you want to discuss the matter rather than smash the keyboard like a retarded monkey on a keyboard with a broken ????????? key

 

[JBR]

No takers? I repeat:

A question for the pro-cycle-lane-lobby. London's a rather busy place. Where exactly would you place additional cycle lanes?

No, really. If you could provide a map of central London and outline your proposed new cycle lanes, I'd be very interested. I suppose you could close off a few roads to traffic, or maybe pull down a few buildings like Buck House.

I apologise if I'm becoming a bit like Joe.

 

[joe-90]

No need to apologise. What they need to do is charge all cars a very high rate for driving into London. Then people would get on their bikes and use buses.
Sooner or later all traffic will become gridlocked so it's something that has to be addressed.

 

[AronSearle]

No takers? I repeat:

A question for the pro-cycle-lane-lobby. London's a rather busy place. Where exactly would you place additional cycle lanes?

No, really. If you could provide a map of central London and outline your proposed new cycle lanes, I'd be very interested. I suppose you could close off a few roads to traffic, or maybe pull down a few buildings like Buck House.

I apologise if I'm becoming a bit like Joe.

I don't actually live in london, hence why I didnt answer.

But I do wonder, the hauge and amsterdam manage to have 70% of journeys carried out by cycle.

I wonder how much more pleasant london would be if you reduced road traffic by such a huge figure, and you would have no end of spare capacity then for cycle lanes (probably not that pleasent as all the anti cyclists would explode in fury all over the place).

Not that I am particularly bothered by cycle lanes, most of the time I don't see they are that necessary, it's only because most people get so stressed and angry to the point of heart attack or murder, if they are held up for a minute, that we need them.

 

[sooey]

Judging by some of your frequent rants Aron your stress levels must hit the roof on a pretty regular basis.
You might say that you just use those rants for effect and to provoke a reaction, I think you're a walking heart attack mate.

 

[JBR]

No takers? I repeat:

A question for the pro-cycle-lane-lobby. London's a rather busy place. Where exactly would you place additional cycle lanes?

No, really. If you could provide a map of central London and outline your proposed new cycle lanes, I'd be very interested. I suppose you could close off a few roads to traffic, or maybe pull down a few buildings like Buck House.

I wonder how much more pleasant london would be if you reduced road traffic by such a huge figure, and you would have no end of spare capacity then for cycle lanes (probably not that pleasent as all the anti cyclists would explode in fury all over the place).

Thanks. That's one vote in favour of the 'closing off roads' option.

I suppose that one drawback to that, though, would be the government losing a great deal of revenue from road tax and fuel duty. This, of course, would have to be replaced by other taxes, such as window tax or air tax.

 

[AronSearle]

I suppose that one drawback to that, though, would be the government losing a great deal of revenue from road tax and fuel duty. This, of course, would have to be replaced by other taxes, such as window tax or air tax.

Stick it all on council tax.

Then when people have to write a check, rather than having the money simply taken out of their wages, they will be much more militant against wastefull spending, inflated public sector wages and tax rises.

Judging by some of your frequent rants Aron your stress levels must hit the roof on a pretty regular basis.
You might say that you just use those rants for effect and to provoke a reaction, I think you're a walking heart attack mate.

Thinking I am stressed, is like thinking joe90 is like "that" in real life, it's called an internet persona.

 

[sooey]

Thinking I am stressed, is like thinking joe90 is like "that" in real life, it's called an internet persona.

It's irrelevant now, I only posted to get your reaction which would have been the 100th post on this thread, thereby beating joe's 'spectacular' thread to the ton. But JBR beat you to it.
Smallminded? of course, but who gives a f*ck.

Up yours joe.

 

[AronSearle]

Good god, have I been trolled?

Tis outragous!

 

[sooey]

Take it easy aron, chill out, watch that heart rate.