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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bodgeit and scarper ltd, 17 Nov 2009.

  1. Bodgeit and scarper ltd

    Bodgeit and scarper ltd

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    Swine flue vaccination anyone had it yet? if so any side affects? I am booked in for mine on Saturday :eek:
     
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    I've got Gammon Flu! I had Swine Flu but the hospital cured me! :D
     
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    I haven't had it but my sister-in-law has (she's pregnant so one of the first on the list). She had it on Saturday, felt really ill all weekend and her arm still aches - think she's getting back to normal now though.
     
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    My OH had hers a couple of weeks ago, my boss had his last week. Both had sore arms and no other problems whatsoever. Remember, it's just a flu vaccine nothing to worry about.
     
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    Up to 65,000 people in the UK could die from swine flu if the pandemic achieves it worst possible potential, the government warned on Thursday 16 July 2009. (Three months after the first case was reported).

    The chief medical officer, Professor Sir Liam Donaldson, said that in the worst case scenario 30% of the UK population could be infected by the H1N1 virus, with 65,000 killed.
    The best case scenario is that 5% of the population contract the virus, with 3,100 deaths.


    In the seven months since the first reported cases in Mexico in April, there has been 108 deaths in the UK from swine flu, and the majority of those had other under lying health problems. Less than 0.16% of the Profs worst case scenario, so do we think that someone may have got some figures wrong? I do! There is a very loud silence coming from Ministers about where the figures came from, how they were calculated and how incorrect they may have been.

    The normal winter flu takes more victims than that.
     
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    ah that'll explain the sore arm.......hang about i havnt had the vaccination? :eek:
     
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    Are you pretending not to know what "worst case scenario" means?
     
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    my wife is pregnant and has decided not to have the vaccine. When you do the research on it, even liam donaldson the governments medical advisor cant garuntee its safety. The world health organisation says we shouldnt be using the one that we are using, its alos had problems in other countries where its been used.

    Its all a personal choice but im happy with her decision. Having spoken to our doctor, he is of the same opinion, as is a practice manager from another doctors we know, who has told us that none of the 7 doctors are having it as it is untried and untested. Obviously a different set of circumstances for us, with an unborn child to think about and the side effects on it.
     
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    OK then, John. 3.5% of the 'best case scenario'

    Still miles out isn't he!
     
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    what happened to the predicted widespread rise in figures in october?
     
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    More scare tactics.

    My daughter had it in the summer, and so many 'friends' of hers seemed to have 'contracted' it as soon as they had seen her. I suspect the real figures of swine flu are miniscule compared with government figures.

    Media hype doesnt help aswell. Its flu. You get it, you recover. Simples.

    Paul.
     
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    The risk is that it may mutate with seasonal flu like it has in the past. Viruses swop DNA in a host that has both strains.

    Ordinary seasonal flu will be along soon to kill around 6000 people.
     
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    My Wife is pregnant too, and we're of exactly the same opinion, especially with this being our first child too. A little worrying in all honesty for her and you never know what the right decision is.

    I personally wouldn't bother with it for myself.
     
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    Somebody dropped a cigarette end in a forest yesterday.

    Worst case scenario was that it could have destroyed thousands of square miles of trees, hundreds of houses, killed hundreds of people.

    Best case scenario was that it could have fallen in a puddle and gone out.

    So that that mean the worst case scenario wasn't as I described? Just because it didn't happen?
     
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    Look at the meta analyses of the mortality figures for H1N1. Normal flu (whatever that means) tends, for the most part to kill older (65+) people and a lot of those die of secondary infections and other causes provoked by the flu rather than the flu itself. H1N1 however is killing people in the age group 20-50 and it's the *primary* cause of death - and it's only a small percentage of these that have underlying health issues. This virus is killing healthy, fit people.

    There are no particular risks associated with the vaccine which has been produced in exactly the same way as seasonal flu vaccine and has been tested in the same way. The only difference is that it uses a stronger adjuvant to provoke your immune system into reaction to produce antibodies and in a small number of people it can make you feel a bit rough for a day or two - it won't kill you though whereas H1N1 might.

    Simple risk/benefit analysis shows that it is beneficial by far to get vaccinated if you are offered the chance.
     
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