Migration Within EU and its Effect to UK and The Referendum

[Himaginn]

"The referendum is going to be an exercise in calculated assessment or prejudice formed by biased opinions."

Yes, the British electorate is well known for that.

I agree, many of them do find calculated assessment anathema. Hopefully it will be the minority.

p.s. where was your ironic emoticon?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Therein lies the irony.

 

[Himaginn]

Therein lies the irony.

You could have used the full quote:
"The world changes, we do not, therein lies the irony that kills us." Anne Rice

 

[PBC_1966]

My point was quite clearly that immigration has been beneficial to UK, not detrimental.

I think most people today can see that some immigration has been beneficial while some has been detrimental. I'm sure that the same could be said for almost any country.

 

[Himaginn]

My point was quite clearly that immigration has been beneficial to UK, not detrimental.

I think most people today can see that some immigration has been beneficial while some has been detrimental. I'm sure that the same could be said for almost any country.

Sure, and if we, say looked at USA, and asked ourselves has immigration been beneficial or detrimental?
Or if we looked at Australia, New Zealand, and asked the same sort of question.
What do you think the answer would be.
Is the UK so different?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Ask the Indians or Aborigines.


You cannot say immigration has been beneficial (or not) without knowing what would have been the situation without it.

 

[Himaginn]

Ask the Indians or Aborigines.


You cannot say immigration has been beneficial (or not) without knowing what would have been the situation without it.

I'm not doing idle speculation again!

 

[EFLImpudence]

... but, that's what you are doing.

Things are as they are and no one knows what it would be like if it were different.

 

[Himaginn]

... but, that's what you are doing.

Things are as they are and no one knows what it would be like if it were different.

I'm commenting on things as they are, not speculating on the way things might have been.

 

[EFLImpudence]

You said certain things and people had been beneficial.

No one knows.

 

[noseall]

Westernisation and globalisation are beneficial to capitalists.

If however your viewpoint were from a naturalistic POV, 'beneficial' would probably not be your response.

 

[jockscott]

I personally believe that because of Cameron's promise to offer us an in/out referendum, the EU is going to make the UK suffer anyway. Someone's already linked to an article stating that the EU isn't going to publish anything about legislation in the pipeline for fear of giving the Brexit supporters ammunition. The Polish MEP, calls it "Pandora's box" Hmmmmmmm Pandora's box,,, Doesn't bode well for anyone.. If it were some sort of sensible legislation, the EU would have no qualms about letting us know,,, would they?

What, like the lady next door? Or her Aunty's next door neighbour?
Can you recreate this link to this article?

Just for you Himaginn (and aginn and aginn and aginn) http://www.politico.eu/article/brus...button-uk-referendum-campaign-eu-legislation/

 

[Himaginn]

Just for you Himaginn (and aginn and aginn and aginn) http://www.politico.eu/article/brus...button-uk-referendum-campaign-eu-legislation/

Brilliant. The news according to a gossip columnist. She's normally more concerned with who's having it off with whom.

 

[jockscott]

Ahh so any reporter who doesn't share your views, is just a "gossip columnist" ??

 

[Himaginn]

Ahh so any reporter who doesn't share your views, is just a "gossip columnist" ??

Not at all. Check her out yourself.
It's obvious where her allegiance lies:

Everyone wants to know the identities of two German officials who, according to a report in the U.K. Sun, were caught engaging a little too closely as stakeholders in a Council building bathroom during the long, hot summit last weekend.

And her sources are nearly as bad as your 'someone said' when she quotes her source as "A French Official"