As Parents Would You Be Shocked If You Children/Family Told You They Were Gay???

[The Samaritan]

Sadly, still too many people are still shocked and in denial about this especially if the child tells their parents they are gay. It's made worse if the child or the family member is already married to the opposite sex and then leaves them for someone of the same sex.


Talking to friends, certain parts of the community on the whole still see it as massive negative as do most very religious people and bigots.

It's made worse if the person moves from a heterosexual relationship to a gay one where the new love of their life is from a different country/religion/colour/status/etc/etc.

In 2022 if you saw or heard anything like that would you challenge it IRL or the net.

Are you guilty of making homophobic comments IRL or the net and are you big enough to admit it??

Indeed a lot people make all kinds of comments in private be it homophobic, racist, or other hate comments and IMO that's where children pick up the bad behaviour often from their parents, single parents, step-parents etc. We never joke about anything that may hurt others.

When I was younger much younger I was naive and used to join in with mates comments/banter that is now seen as out of order and the problem was we used to be used to these kinds of comments on tv, so-called comedies etc. Sadly, you see it too often the snide comments by the illiterates IRL and the net.

Someone that worked with me many, many years ago she was a 'born again...' type always bleated on about how good their religion was and it made her what she was and was very against same-sex marriages etc etc. Guess what, out of nowhere their 30+ son declared he was gay - the woman had a nervous breakdown, so it can hit any family best to be open-minded and fair from the outset to avoid breakdowns like this woman.


Have things moved on or are they more hidden in your estimations?? IMO, its more covert IRL and sadly still rife on some forums, I will report it without fail and it is always removed. Often they are the same culprits but if not challenged, others sitting on the fence may/will join in and this is why we all have to challenge it!!!!

My motto is live and let live as long as it is within the law of the land and I for one would never ask anyone to agree with anything if they don't want IE freedom of choice. However, I will challenge and report bigots if/when safe to do so.

Thanks

 

[transam]

Here we go

 

[johnny2007]

In today's world we should be shocked if someone is heterosexual.
"You, a man, have sex with women?!?! You pervert!"

 

[JohnD]

In today's world we should be shocked if someone is heterosexual.
"You, a man, have sex with women?!?! You pervert!"

Some people now use the word "woman" to include a man who says "I am a woman."

 

[Lower]

Some people now use the word "woman" to include a man who says "I am a woman."

NHS staff are being instructed to deny when challenged that a man with a penis that self identifies as a women is actually a man if that 'trans' individual is put in a female, single sex ward.

Not so good for the woman that was raped by a self identifying woman that happened to still have a penis when the hospital involved has spent the last year denying there was a man on the ward, despite CCTV evidence.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

For me it's simple, live and let live. However, that doesn't mean I need to agree with everything that's going on in the world. We live in a democratic country where free thought and speech is the norm, although the scope of this seems increasingly challenged these days.

Btw I'm not referring to lesbian/gay. I don't have kids, however I have nieces and nephews, okay not quite the same thing as having your own I get that. However if any of them told me they were lesbian/gay I couldn't care less.

What I struggle more with is all this stuff around gender fluidity etc. I saw someone being interviewed the other day and they said to the Caucasian UK interviewer 'if you want to identify as Japanese you should be allowed to, what's the issue?'

Referring you to the BIB, if someone I knew said to me 'I'm Japanese from now on ...' yes I would live and let live. However it doesn't mean I need to agree with it, and if I want to talk negatively about it to whoever, that's surely my right, no?

 

[Justin Passing]

Sadly, still too many people are still shocked and in denial about this especially if the child tells their parents they are gay. It's made worse if the child or the family member is already married to the opposite sex and then leaves them for someone of the same sex.


Talking to friends, certain parts of the community on the whole still see it as massive negative as do most very religious people and bigots.

It's made worse if the person moves from a heterosexual relationship to a gay one where the new love of their life is from a different country/religion/colour/status/etc/etc.

In 2022 if you saw or heard anything like that would you challenge it IRL or the net.

Are you guilty of making homophobic comments IRL or the net and are you big enough to admit it??

Indeed a lot people make all kinds of comments in private be it homophobic, racist, or other hate comments and IMO that's where children pick up the bad behaviour often from their parents, single parents, step-parents etc. We never joke about anything that may hurt others.

When I was younger much younger I was naive and used to join in with mates comments/banter that is now seen as out of order and the problem was we used to be used to these kinds of comments on tv, so-called comedies etc. Sadly, you see it too often the snide comments by the illiterates IRL and the net.

Someone that worked with me many, many years ago she was a 'born again...' type always bleated on about how good their religion was and it made her what she was and was very against same-sex marriages etc etc. Guess what, out of nowhere their 30+ son declared he was gay - the woman had a nervous breakdown, so it can hit any family best to be open-minded and fair from the outset to avoid breakdowns like this woman.


Have things moved on or are they more hidden in your estimations?? IMO, its more hidden IRL and sadly still rife on some forums

Thanks

I wonder what your question really is. I wondered when one of your posts would turn this way.

As far as I've seen, any parent is going to know their kid well enough that they wouldn't be "surprised". Relieved, more likely. Concerned for the kid perhaps.

Whether they're affronted by it, is something else. My parents and their generation were intolerant of just about everything.
I imagine life would be harder in many situations to be "out", but it's getting better and well, so it's just "tough" to some extent, that's just life. It would hinder a kid getting on in some environments much more than others. If they want to go into TV (televison!) it's probably an advantage.

It's normal human behaviour to discriminate or be suspicous about anyone who's perceivable as different in any way - even left-handed. Minorities will always be picked on but calling much of the attention they get because of it "hate" or "phobic" is just manufacturing another problem.
If you announce your minority status in a public place you should expect some flak/banter; you can't blame the platform you're on especially if comms aren't pre-filtered. There are bounds, which are hard to define, but within those, considering what you've said, it's within your control and you have to let some flow over you. (This is where I might say take it like a man just to see what the reaction is. Slightly funny, slightly offensive, but surely not worth a moan?)


Some minorities of all hues seek to weaponize their status which enrages everyone. Some women do it and they aren't even the minority - y'all know what I mean. SO - just because you're a (insert group), get off your high moral horse you obnoxious effing(insert group).

I was amused by Sue Perkins' tales - she struggled with her emerging sexuality alongside her then-boyfriend, who also turned out to be gay. She says it's the 47th most interesting thing about her. I'd put it higher than that, maybe about tenth.

I worked mostly in a somewhat creative industry. The whole industry was mostly males, gay ones being grossly over-represented in some sectors, because they tended to be particularly good at it.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Some people now use the word "woman" to include a man who says "I am a woman."

 

[The Samaritan]

For me it's simple, live and let live.

Indeed a fact and something I preach IRL along with 'as long as it's within the law of the land you is stood on!!!

However, that doesn't mean I need to agree with everything that's going on in the world.

Another excellent statement and one I often preach, fact!!

What I struggle more with is all this stuff around gender fluidity etc. I saw someone being interviewed the other day and they said to the Caucasian UK interviewer 'if you want to identify as Japanese you should be allowed to, what's the issue?'

Totally agree!!!

 

[Justin Passing]

BTW Hummy I think you're on shaky ground in your paragraph:

"she was a 'born again...' type always bleated on about how good their religion was and it made her what she was and was very against same-sex marriages etc etc. Guess what, out of nowhere their 30+ son declared he was gay - the woman had a nervous breakdown, so it can hit any family best to be open-minded and fair from the outset to avoid breakdowns like this woman."

You're denigrating this person's personality for how they see themselves, / who they are.

Steady....

 

[The Samaritan]

NHS staff are being instructed to deny when challenged that a man with a penis that self identifies as a women is actually a man if that 'trans' individual is put in a female, single sex ward.

Not so good for the woman that was raped by a self identifying woman that happened to still have a penis when the hospital involved has spent the last year denying there was a man on the ward, despite CCTV evidence.

Post the evidence!!!

I will follow through!!!

Good afternoon

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It's all a bit f**ked, lots of examples over past couple of years that I don't agree with, much of them by the media who seem to pander to the latest fad around all this. e.g. the presenter doc x weeks back who kept referring to 'pregnant people' so as not (I assume) to offend women who are transitioning to become men but still have the 'bits' to become pregnant.

As an increasing number of from birth women are saying, much of this starts to erode female identity.

 

[noseall]

I love my family and my two sprogs (boys) like nothing on Earth. Like any parent, they’d have to do something pretty awful to rattle my cage. Being gay is not one them. My youngest is joined at the hip with his school sweetheart (girl) and my eldest has just dumped a long time girlfriend for another Uni student (girl) who identifies as a ‘they’….?

 

[ajstoneservices]

This post have been made by hummybirds alter ego or partner. The one that isn't judgmental or makes snide remarks and lies like a politician.

 

[The Samaritan]

It's all a bit f**ked, lots of examples over past couple of years that I don't agree with, much of them by the media who seem to pander to the latest fad around all this. e.g. the presenter doc x weeks back who kept referring to 'pregnant people' so as not (I assume) to offend women who are transitioning to become men but still have the 'bits' to become pregnant.

As an increasing number of from birth women are saying, much of this starts to erode female identity.

I agree and a lot of pandering is done by people who think they are doing a certain group a favour when they are not.

Slight OT I recall some schools banning "Xmas" becuse their schools were mainly "Muslims" but when the parents of the children were asked the vast majoirty did not have a problem with Xmas - to many people talking about stuff they dont understand


NB: No one has yet answered the question if they would challenge a homophobic bigot IRL or forums if it was safe to do so or join in.