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The only one lying is you.
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Nope. 2 hours 11 minutes. The escalation came after.
Why are you struggling with this? Or are you just deliberately misunderstanding the facts in order to carry on with your agenda. I think we can guess.
I'm talking about the length of time to compose a tweet dummy.
Struggling with these lies...
Lies.
More lies.
No struggle. 'Im astonished that you continue to lie the way you do. It's pitiful.
The offer to retract/make a donation/say an apology was still on the table up till August 4th 2015. There was no rapid withdrawal of the offer. Her request for an apology was sincere.
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What agenda? Nowhere on the 18th May 2015 does Monroe rescind the offer to apologise/make donation etc.
Ms Monroe tweeted again at 7.36pm: “I’m asking you nicely to please delete this lie Katie, and if I have to ask again it will be through my lawyer.” (With a link to the First Tweet) (4) At 8.14pm
Ms Monroe tweeted again, this time using Ms Hopkins’ Twitter handle: “Dear @KTHopkins, public apology +£5k to migrant rescue & I won’t sue. It’ll be cheaper for you and v. satisfying for me.”
Where does she say she's rescinded her offer in these tweets? What do you think the words say in paragraphs 19, 20, 21? I can help with that....
(21st May 2015) The letter requested a correction and apology, an undertaking not to repeat this or similar tweets about Ms Monroe, payment of a “substantial donation” to a charity of Ms Monroe’s choice, and payment of legal costs. The form of correction and apology Ms Monroe wanted was spelled out: “A tweet to be sent at a date and time to be agreed, ‘I was confused about identity. I got it wrong. @MsJackMonroe I’m sorry. I have made a substantial donation to charity at her request.’”
Would you like a big dollop of contrition with that humble pie, Billy bullshít?
You mean these facts...
'Make a donation'
Monroe said Hopkins had initially been asked to delete her tweet, but "she didn't respond to me being nice"."She blocked me immediately instead of responding," Monroe said.
"So then I said, 'Make a donation and it goes away.'
"And she didn't respond to that. In the months that followed, I made several offers to her to make an apology [without receiving one]."
Or these facts..
“These proceedings have been a nightmare,” Monroe told the court. “It has been an 18-month, unproductive, devastating nightmare.
“I did not want to be here today. I have offered several times though my lawyer to settle these proceedings outside court. This is the last thing that I wanted to be doing.”
Or this little snipped from the judgement sent on the 21st May...
A letter of complaint was sent promptly by Ms Monroe’s solicitors, Seddons. On 21 May 2015 they wrote to Ms Hopkins c/o STH Management. They said, among other things: “… the words were highly defamatory of Ms Monroe and have caused a huge amount of stress and trouble. Despite those tweets being made by Ms Penny, it is clear that you thought they had been made by Ms Monroe. Quite clearly your followers, who number over half a million, shared the confusion that you promoted and consequently Ms Monroe was subjected to a torrent of abusive and vile comment. When it was pointed out by you to Ms Monroe that you had made a mistake you decided not to take action but instead aggravated the position by tweeting (at 9:47pm)…”
The letter requested a correction and apology, an undertaking not to repeat this or similar tweets about Ms Monroe, payment of a “substantial donation” to a charity of Ms Monroe’s choice, and payment of legal costs. The form of correction and apology Ms Monroe wanted was spelled out: “A tweet to be sent at a date and time to be agreed, ‘I was confused about identity. I got it wrong. @MsJackMonroe I’m sorry. I have made a substantial donation to charity at her request.’”
Or this bullshít....
Lies.
More lies.
Squirm away Billy.
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Talking of wanting an apology
Monroe said of the news: "My offer of a cup of tea still stands if she wants to talk about it ... Lots of people are celebrating but I’m not. It's a sad, lonely sort of anticlimax. It’s really crap and I feel really bad it’s all ended up like this. I thought she'd just say sorry."
An apology would have made it all go away without the expense or the court action. Repeat, at mbk, an apology would have stopped it going to court.
Monroe said of the news: "My offer of a cup of tea still stands if she wants to talk about it ... Lots of people are celebrating but I’m not. It's a sad, lonely sort of anticlimax. It’s really crap and I feel really bad it’s all ended up like this. I thought she'd just say sorry."
An apology would have made it all go away without the expense or the court action. Repeat, at mbk, an apology would have stopped it going to court.
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Nobody is suggesting she should not have apologised. Nobody is defending her. Nobody is suggesting she is anything other than a stubborn nutter, who attacks disabled people, with nasty unfunny comments.
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a builder, a chippie and a semi retired mechanic share their legal expertise.
The request was to delete the tweet - it was complied with. The subsequent request was to pay 5k to a charity that Hopkins would consider toxic. In order to be "v. satisfying for [monroe].”
This is not a sincere offer.
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Irrelevant.
It matters not. The offer was sincere and continued to be long after the initial spat. Monroe made it clear right up until it went to court that if Hopkins apologised at any point, she could have stopped proceedings. Hopkins never apologised once and didn't even bother with a more favourable (to her) counter offer.
38 minutes my arse.
Made up nonsense. Monroe continued to ask Hopkins to apologise ang gave her ample time to settle out of court, imploring her not to proceed. It went ignored and Hopkins chose court.
Outright lies.....
Lies.
More lies.
The offer to Hopkins was NOT rapidly withdrawn and was still current long after the initial spat. YOU on the other hand are a hopeless, sad liar.
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No where in that twitter exchange does Monroe rescind her offer for an apology/donation/retraction. Quite the opposite.
At 7.33pm Ms Monroe tweeted in these terms: “I have NEVER ‘scrawled on a memorial’. Brother in the RAF. Dad was a Para in the Falklands. You’re a piece of s**.” (With a screenshot to the First Tweet)
Ms Monroe tweeted again at 7.36pm: “I’m asking you nicely to please delete this lie Katie, and if I have to ask again it will be through my lawyer.” (With a link to the First Tweet)
At 8.14pm Ms Monroe tweeted again, this time using Ms Hopkins’ Twitter handle: “Dear @KTHopkins, public apology +£5k to migrant rescue & I won’t sue. It’ll be cheaper for you and v. satisfying for me.”
less than 45 minutes
It was her {KH} cretinous antagonisation that sealed her fate.
Explain paragraph 19 (he can't, he wont).
Explain how the offer to settle in the months leading to the court case (which Hopkins ignored) were insincere (he can't, he won't).
'Make a donation'
Monroe said Hopkins had initially been asked to delete her tweet, but "she didn't respond to me being nice"."She blocked me immediately instead of responding," Monroe said.
"So then I said, 'Make a donation and it goes away.'
"And she didn't respond to that. In the months that followed, I made several offers to her to make an apology [without receiving one]."
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“These proceedings have been a nightmare,” Monroe told the court. “It has been an 18-month, unproductive, devastating nightmare.
“I did not want to be here today. I have offered several times though my lawyer to settle these proceedings outside court. This is the last thing that I wanted to be doing.”
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Lies.
More lies
Where? When? Post up these lies you speak of.
NEVER throughout the whole spat, did Hopkins apologise. Nor did Hopkins bother with a counter offer. Conversely, throughout the whole spat Monroe repeatedly asked Hopkins to apologise. Hopkins ignored all Monroe's' attempts to reach out.
MBK is nothing more than a hopeless liar.
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The only liar is you,
Monroe asked for the tweet to be deleted - it was - the request was not ignored, it was actioned in 2 hours 11 minutes
Monroe asked for Hopkins to post a tweet - saying she made a mistake - Hopkins did
Hopkins' lawyers also responded to the 2nd letter before action and there was a lengthy exchange exploring the element of harm, necessary for a defamation claim.
Do you think you run up 300k of legal bills with just 2 letters and a court hearing?
It's true that Hopkins never apologised or made an offer.
You've been shown up to be stupid again.
First you claim there was no mistaken identity - wrong everyone accepts this.
then you claim that a barbed offer is a genuine attempt to settle - wrong.
Then you pretend the offer was not retracted - it was after one letter. - wrong
I've repeatedly, shown you where to look to understand what an offer to settle looks like, but you pretend its irrelevant nonsense - wrong
No doubt you'll go another few pages grizzling, posting garbage.
Nonsense.
And?
And?
And?
Correct. And so it went to court.
However, none of your waffle above dispels these little whoppers...
Lies.
More lies.
The request for an apology was sincere and prolonged on on the table for a long time. You are a liar.
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