If this year is the end of the Tory government, how will you remember them?

[carmanmemoranda]

Why are all trolls right wing

 

[fillyboy]

Err, you've heard about XX and XY chromosomes?

Masculinity is maleness - fundamentally derived from brain structure, testosterone levels and other biological/physiological factors. The behavioral traits, amongst other things, stem from this.

It is all beside the point though and I don't think you need to have posted so many times about this. You seem to be writing some very odd and confused posts on different threads this morning.

You ok, hun?

Alternatively, if you have a penis, you're a man, and if you can't park a car properly, you're a woman.

 

[noseall]

Why are all trolls right wing

Its an intelligence (lack of) thing. Think Brexit, climate change denial, anti-abortion, hatred of foreigners, Trump supporters etc - all are as thick as mince.

 

[berty3000]

Its an intelligence (lack of) thing. Think Brexit, climate change denial, anti-abortion, hatred of foreigners, Trump supporters etc - all are as thick as mince.

Still avoiding...

 

[Ihavenojob]

I find it very interesting how we had these political titans in the 19th century, like Glasdstone, Disraeli and Lord Salisbury. Highly intelligent all rounders. The twentieth century was a mixed bag, which the style of the three mentioned wouldn't have been suited to.

In 1911, MP's started to get paid, so being a politician became a job. like most jobs, people will try to do as little as possible for the biggest gain.

 

[Ihavenojob]

If labour win the election, the next few years will see them bankrupting the country even further doing things they want and getting rid of tory policies. Then, when the country has had enough of labour, the tories will get back and and do just as labour did, sending us deeper into debt until we are wholly owned by the Chinese or WHO/WEF.

 

[Brigadier]

You could always explain

 

[blup]

They strike me most of all as having been dopey, left wing and incompetent.

The most right wing government since the war.

They've generally wanted to please everybody other than those who actually voted for them and, from the start, set out to be something they are not. This began with Cameron trying to replicate Blair; then the god awful and very weak May; the massive disappointment that was Boris, who turned out to be a rabid ecosocialist and grifter; a lurch towards something new and immediate panic having done so with the autistic liberal that is Truss; and finally the hopeless WEF globalist, Sunak, who is only able to pursue pathetic initiatives nobody ever asked for.

A labour administration would have borrowed and invested heavily in public infrastructure.

... but really, all of this has just been the sorry continuation of Gordon Brown, and the latter two terms of Blair from which practically everything they implemented turned out badly. Throw globalisation into the mix and we see the steady decline of what governments can achieve.

The sorry continuation of thatcher

What is most disturbing to me, as somebody who has no party loyalties and has voted for all three main parties and others, is that the main opposition has been so appalling over the past ten years that the tories were able to keep easily winning. They are far from being appealing now. The quality of the opposition is just as important as the quality of the government.

The opposition has gone centre right in order to win, instead of going left; starmy’s lot will be tied into that for five years while the tories go even further to the right in the meantime. We even have an iron lady as chancellor in waiting.

I think what we also saw, particularly in 2019, as we basically had no government and parliament in a psychotic breakdown over brexit, was that a lot of MPs are not really what they appear to be and the parties they belong to are not what they were.

Psychotic breakdown over a pragmatic May deal.

Final point: we are signed up to so many treaties and dictated to by so many foreign bodies, billionaires and large corporations, and have such an embedded deep state, that I'm not sure how much the politicians can actually do at this point.

Its called the free market economy. A nation state has to trade and do deals. We had a very good one with the eu.

They cannot control simple things in what is now a highly globalised system.

We have an nhs which we can control by voting for a party that will protect it.

There is the illusion of a government but we don't ever see or even know the names of the people with the real power. The politicians are basically the celebrity figure heads who we all talk about, but this is extremely superficial. Rather like a bad pantomime or soap opera. It's fake.

These people with real power have been standing back a bit. Must be time for another of their committee meetings. As borris discovered being in power is a little more complex than writing articles about bendy bananas.

I hope the Tory party will be destroyed forever, but I feel the same way about Labour and have my doubts about the ability of political parties to do good in general.

The toreys will lurch to the right and pull starmy with them.

 

[Brigadier]

people will try to do as little as possible for the biggest gain.

Are you are of that mindset?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

In 1911, MP's started to get paid, so being a politician became a job. like most jobs, people will try to do as little as possible for the biggest gain.

Conversely if they are not paid only those born wealthy could afford to be an mp.

That would be worse, and it was

 

[noseall]

Are you are of that mindset?

He must mean Baroness Mone and her binned PPE.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Are you are of that mindset?

Yes, I do the bare minimum I can get away with, it's human nature.

 

[JonathanM]

Yes, I do the bare minimum I can get away with, it's human nature.

There's a difference between a job and a vocation.

 

[Brigadier]

Yes, I do the bare minimum I can get away with, it's human nature.

And you could still afford to buy a house?

 

[noseall]

Its an intelligence (lack of) thing. Think Brexit, climate change denial, anti-abortion, hatred of foreigners, Trump supporters etc - all are as thick as mince.

..oh and lump anti-vaxx in there with the morons, as well