I'm often asked what's my problem with BLM

[Bodd]

Should they refuse to play in UK because of the unacceptable levels of racism in UK football?

If they did I'd support them.... would you?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There have been 6,750 deaths of south Asian migrants since Qatar was awarded the right to host the World Cup in 2010






Deaths
500
1,000
1,500
2,000
2,500
India 2,711







Nepal 1,641







Bangladesh 1,018







Pakistan 824







Sri Lanka 557






From the Guardian

Clearly the vast majority were not stadium work related.
How many migrant workers have died in the last 10 years in UK?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

If they did I'd support them.... would you?

I'm not a football supporter.
I prefer the actors to play on stages designed for the purpose.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You need to open you eyes up

You need to read beyond the headlines and question those headlines.
No where does it imply that all the deaths were stadium work related deaths.
That is purely your own assumption. I agree you were led to that assumption by the style of the reporting. But led you were.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Join my thread about Qatar

34 deaths in 10 years in stadium work in Quatar, according to official figures.
How many migrants have died at sea in 10 years, but that's of no concern to you, is it?
Nearly 1000 this year, in the Mediterranean alone, and we're only half way through the year!

https://missingmigrants.iom.int/region/mediterranean

 

[Bodd]

You need to read beyond the headlines and question those headlines.
No where does it imply that all the deaths were stadium work related deaths.
That is purely your own assumption. I agree you were led to that assumption by the style of the reporting. But led you were.

How far do I need to read
Data from India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka revealed there were 5,927 deaths of migrant workers in the period 2011–2020. Separately, data from Pakistan’s embassy in Qatar reported a further 824 deaths of Pakistani workers, between 2010 and 2020.

Mohammad Shahid Miah, 29, from Bangladesh, died when floodwater in his room came into contact with an exposed electric cable, electrocuting him.
The total death toll is significantly higher, as these figures do not include deaths from a number of countries which send large numbers of workers to Qatar, including the Philippines and Kenya. Deaths that occurred in the final months of 2020 are also not included.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

How far do I need to read
Data from India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka revealed there were 5,927 deaths of migrant workers in the period 2011–2020. Separately, data from Pakistan’s embassy in Qatar reported a further 824 deaths of Pakistani workers, between 2010 and 2020.

Mohammad Shahid Miah, 29, from Bangladesh, died when floodwater in his room came into contact with an exposed electric cable, electrocuting him.
The total death toll is significantly higher, as these figures do not include deaths from a number of countries which send large numbers of workers to Qatar, including the Philippines and Kenya. Deaths that occurred in the final months of 2020 are also not included.

No where in that report does it state or imply that the deaths were connected to the building of the stadiums.
Read the article without those tinted specs on.
Read, at the end, how many were related to the building of the stadiums.
And stop trying to obliterate the issue of taking the knee with accidental deaths in Quatar. Many of those deaths could be road accidents, falls from balconies, illnesses, etc.

 

[transam]

You need to open you eyes up

Take a look at some of the goods you use or consume in your life ?

do you know where some of it comes from ? how it was made ?

Raw materials dug out the earth by some one on less than a dollar a day ? By some one with a Life expectancy 40
No health care ? No rights ?

child labour may be ?

 

[Bodd]

Take a look at some of the goods you use or consume in your life ?

do you know where some of it comes from ? how it was made ?

Raw materials dug out the earth by some one on less than a dollar a day ? By some one with a Life expectancy 40
No health care ? No rights ?

child labour may be ?

My point is the WC in Qatar is directly attached to our players who have been bending the knee for the injustices of life... it's got far more relevant than a Criminal being g killed in America...

George should not have died like he did. But nore should 6500 people with young children die building stadiums for theses same footballers

 

[transam]

My point is the WC in Qatar is directly attached to our players who have been bending the knee for the injustices of life... it's got far more relevant than a Criminal being g killed in America...

George should not have died like he did. But nore should 6500 people with young children die building stadiums for theses same footballers

well I would not neccedsrily dis agree with the principle of what you are saying

taking the knee is a gesture to appease the shouty minority ?

but when push comes to shove refusing to go to the World Cup is more serious so

nowt will happen they will go

no surprise tbh

Even those spouting there principles have limits

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

My point is the WC in Qatar is directly attached to our players who have been bending the knee for the injustices of life... it's got far more relevant than a Criminal being g killed in America...

George should not have died like he did. But nore should 6500 people with young children die building stadiums for theses same footballers

Qatar World Cup: report reveals 34 stadium worker deaths in 6 years
https://www.business-humanrights.or...-reveals-34-stadium-worker-deaths-in-6-years/

 

[transam]

well I would not neccedsrily dis agree with the principle of what you are saying

taking the knee is a gesture to appease the shouty minority ?

but when push comes to shove refusing to go to the World Cup is more serious so

nowt will happen they will go

no surprise tbh

Even those spouting there principles have limits

and will make excuses

appeasers who when push comes to shove really don’t give a ****

no surprise

 

[transam]

Hmmm wonder what would have happened to any player who refused to take the knee ???

You would have to go with the flow I suppose ?? Keep up appearances ? No big deal ?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

More than 6,500 migrant workers from India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka have died in Qatar since it won the right to host the World Cup 10 years ago.

We need to stop England competing in next year's world Cup.

See at first you got it right. Now you've twisted the data to claim that all of the deaths were involved in the building of the stadiums.
Can you not see how the issue of migrant deaths is not necessarily related to the building of the stadiums?
For instance, have you found out what the deaths of migrant workers was like before Qatar won the WC bid, and compared the data?
Has your sources of information carried out that kind of investigation? Would they provide the data if they had?
Qatar World Cup: report reveals 34 stadium worker deaths in 6 years
https://www.business-humanrights.or...-reveals-34-stadium-worker-deaths-in-6-years/

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

If Bodd is having a conversation with himself, he must’ve got that from you.

You should advise transam. He is regularly quoting his own comments.
In fact he invariably quotes his own comments.