Landlord gas safety checks...need for flame failure cut off

[kevplumb]

not what the op said

you can only base a reply on the info provided

 

[bengasman]

Wouldn't be the first time the info is incomplete Kev. Seen plenty of places that looked suspiciously as if the cp12 had been done in about 4 minutes flat.
Replaced a boiler last year in a rental place where the flue had not been sealed to the fabric; distance between flue and opening in wall 1 mm, and happily passed on the lgsc.

 

[mowerv]

The fire is aged --but good--it has not been modified and was made when FFD's were not part of any spec. the guy only mentioned the FFD when he gave his reason for cutting it off and capping the feed. I appreciate the info and find the discussion illuminating...hope others do too.

 

[kevplumb]

what exactly does it say on the paperwork he left that you signed

 

[SteveLondon]

If the fire did not come with any FSD/OSD/ASD or whatever safety device. as long as it it not in a bedroom or "living space" by this you have a bed there that u sleep in even if it is tempory, along with no evidence of spillage after testing then the fire is safe. It may be NTCS

if any of the above is different then it would in fact be ID.

I would have to check my unsafe sits book to be 100% sure but im 99% sure that the above is correct

 

[mowerv]

here's the rub..(bear in mind this has been fine for several years)
SAFETY DEVICE =NO
he has said NO or FAIL on all other sections but I know he hasn't tested for updraught or spillage...FLUE VISUAL he has failed!! but he wasn't there long enough to have a cup of tea let alone take the fire away from the fireplace!.
I believe he has failed on the FFD and ticked all negative responses to justify his time. I shall follow this up with him (diplomatically) when I return from France on 20th. Thanks for all the input. dont be surprised if I cant respond between now and then.

 

[mowerv]

before I go to Frogland, (I love them really)...what is OSD /ASD / NTCS /ID ta

 

[kevplumb]

ASD atmospheric sensing device (oxy pilot) same as OSD
oxgen sensing device
NTCS not to current standards

ID immedietly dangerous

 

[kevindgas]

before I go to Frogland, (I love them really)...what is OSD /ASD / NTCS /ID ta

OSD not sure what this actually means but i believe just another name for ASD/FFD Etc.
ASD atmospheric sensing device = similar to an FFD or FSD supervision devices that sense the flame, if it drifts or goes out the device cuts off the gas
NTS or NTCS not to current standard = advisory only no action required
AR at risk means the appliance is considered to be potentially dangerous but not immediately
ID immediately dangerous = risk to life if left connected

 

[bengasman]

OSD = oxygen sensing device

 

[namsag]

Mowerv . You want to register your compliant with the company about the guy asap so that when you return the say its been too long etcetc

 

[kevindgas]

thanks ben
just a blonde moment!!

 

[kevplumb]

Mowerv . You want to register your compliant with the company about the guy asap so that when you return the say its been too long etcetc

good advice fella

 

[ollski]

if any of the above is different then it would in fact be ID.

I would have to check my unsafe sits book to be 100% sure but im 99% sure that the above is correct

Might just need to check through that book with regards to bedrooms or rooms used as bedrooms (ncs / AR)

 

[brutaldeluxe1]

to be honest i think the op is a troll still not got the make of fire,
have to agree with other posts in that we cant id for no ffd unless it has been tampererd with.