That doctor in the covid ward on the news last night.

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Did anyone else see it? He was walking round the ward pointing out patient's saying "unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated......". They were nearly all unvaccinated. Coincidence or what?

Of course the antivaxxers will insist the doctor was telling lies. Simple - the vast majority are vaccinated, yet the wards are inundated with the unvaccinated - says it all really, for those of a sensible mind. Only a fool would claim otherwise.
 
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If Covid has shown anything it's that 10% or more of our population don't understand statistics.
 
I think Trump is to blame. 4 years of a leader making totally wacky claims, just making things up, and shouting people down, and now everybody thinks that if they talk *******s loud enough people will believe them.
 
it shows that the doctor would be more likely to be pointing out vaxxed than unvaxxed what bit of that are you struggling with ?

What total and complete rubbish. You are either suggesting that the doctor is telling lies, or they have specially arranged that ward to be full of the unvaccinated. Which do you think is correct, or even likely? Which planet do you live on, it is certainly not this one. All you do is look to find ways to twist data, so as to support your strange beliefs, so you can ignore what is staring you in the face - THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY WRONG AND A COMPLETE FOOL.

That alone is bad enough, if it only affected you - but your actions affect the rest of society and are denying urgent hospital treatment for millions.
 
What total and complete rubbish. You are either suggesting that the doctor is telling lies, or they have specially arranged that ward to be full of the unvaccinated. Which do you think is correct, or even likely? Which planet do you live on, it is certainly not this one. All you do is look to find ways to twist data, so as to support your strange beliefs, so you can ignore what is staring you in the face - THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY WRONG AND A COMPLETE FOOL.

That alone is bad enough, if it only affected you - but your actions affect the rest of society and are denying urgent hospital treatment for millions.
you certainly should go into comedy what a clown you are , what bit of the vaxxed in hospital are seriously out numbering the unvaxxed the figures are there for you to see and digest
 
you certainly should go into comedy what a clown you are , what bit of the vaxxed in hospital are seriously out numbering the unvaxxed the figures are there for you to see and digest
This has been covered a million times. 90% of the population who can have vaccines have had one or more shots.

If Vaccines did nothing then you'd see 10% of admitted patients being unvaccinated. But it isn't, it's far larger.
 
Rather than try to look at the bigger picture with pages of graphs and tables to confuse, just read the covid updates from hospitals.
Here's Barts': https://www.bartshealth.nhs.uk/news/latest-update-on-coronavirus-at-barts-health-hospitals-7729

Some good news - about 90% of people in hospital with covid are surviving.
But, as a reminder of how it affects not just people who are dying from other diseases, they list all their colleagues who have been killed by covid.
No flu or (bad "just a bad cold" for that matter) has ever killed so many health workers.

Almost a year old, but no less relevant
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-02-02...ng-the-pandemic-here-is-a-list-of-all-of-them
 
keep clutching at those straws your vaccine is failing more and more as time goes on

See if you can find a five year old to explain the data and small print to you, because you are failing miserably. What sort of gas is it that you sniff?
 
Some good news - about 90% of people in hospital with covid are surviving.
But, as a reminder of how it affects not just people who are dying from other diseases, they list all their colleagues who have been killed by covid.
No flu or (bad "just a bad cold" for that matter) has ever killed so many health workers.

Or, 10% do not survive. Does Gas112 feel lucky?
 
As i stated earlier the data should be portrayed as such

% of total adults in this agegroup vaccinated submitted to hospital due to Covid
% of total adults in this agegroup unvaccinated people submitted to hospital due to Covid

The supplied stats are as almost as shi't as your gas or leccy bill, ie just give me a clear picture here not raw data.

OK lets collectively work this out, anyone care to help?

Lets take 50-59 age group. Ive looked online and see UK total population, on the whole most people in this age group have all 3 jabs.

Total Adults 50-59 Uk population
50-54 3,875,351
55-59 3,761,782
Total 7,637,133

Total vaccinated GOV figures Jan 2022 Booster and 3rd dose
Total 6,256,350

Total vaccinated according to population and gov figures 50-59 as %
81.92% 6,248,702

Total unvaccinated
18.08% 1,380793


So... Case presenting emergency care for 50-59 (page 35)

Third dose vaccinated 490 = 0.007% of the total vaccinated 50-59 year olds with 3 Jabs
Unvaccinated 525 = 0.038% of unvaccinated 50-59 year olds
 
you certainly should go into comedy what a clown you are , what bit of the vaxxed in hospital are seriously out numbering the unvaxxed the figures are there for you to see and digest

The forum clown is you, except you are missing that. No matter how many people explain the figures and the stats to you, you still deny their validity.

9 out of ten in hospital due to covid are unvaccinated. 8 / 9 out of every 10 people have been vaccinated.

That suggests that the unvaccinated are around 70 times more likely to end up in hospital due to catching covid, than the vaccinated.

Reading into more detail, if you go in hospital with covid, then you have a 1 in 10 chance of dying from covid. Then there is the additional risk of your life being wrecked long term, by long covid, even if you you do survive.

I do wonder how long it might be before the life insurance companies decide to deny life cover for the antivaxxers?
 
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